Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[BlackHat]

first watch, 115-113 pac ( i was generous to Tim and gave him the close rounds )

2nd and 3rd 116-112, i gave Tim Round 1,2,10,11

[IMDAZED]

is that the time the only comment from the HBO guys was why is the ref letting him do this? or something along those lines

Maybe compubox thought they were illegal blows. Maybe compubox is all done be Lederman and Lampley. That would answer a few wtfs

maybe. I mean, he hit Pacquiao with about ten clean body punches in a row.

[pnksntdead]

Bradley got stung in this round, Bradley couldn't land anything clean. LMAO

bradley was pretty much short on his jab or getting gloves the entire round. i guess his movement and punch volume worked for the judges but his effort, but he didn't seem to make any significant contact at all.
the left by manny @ :36 was beautiful

[DoktorSleepless]

My God, you're actually counting those half assed jabbed that merely sc****d Pacquiao's gloves over and over as 'landed punches'?

And I know that you're trying to make it seem like Bradley would have a more impressive compubox stats, but even if you don't count compubox Pacquiao is even MORE dominant in the fight because of how many times he rocked Bradley and was actually landing great punches. Pac won by a very wide margin in normal scoring as well as compubox-wise.

I'm not claiming Bradley won the fight. Pacquiao clearly won for the reasons you mentioned. The only point I was trying to make was that Pacquiao barely landed anything in this specific round, yet compubox more than doubled the punches that Pacquiao landed. I still think that compubox overestimated the punches landed by Pacquiao in most rounds, but even then, his quality still made up for it most of the time. I don't think he had enough quality in this specific round to win it though.

[crold1]

I saw the Bradley vs Pacquiao fight once and I only gave Bradley 2 rounds after that night.

However, earlier today I saw Bailey vs Jones and decided to watch the last two championship rounds of Pacquiao's somewhat controversial SD loss before going out the door.

After the 2nd view, I actually gave Bradley both the 11th and 12th round - something I didn't do after the first viewing.

While Max and Lampley were talking about Manny's calves, mustache, hairstyle and other nonsensical bullcrap, Tim was actually outworking Manny and landed more shots. There was no doubt that Pacquiao landed the harder shots but he did absolutely nothing in those two last championship rounds. Tim landed jabs, right hand counters and hooks. Manny tried to steal the rounds in the last seconds but it wasn't enough.

So, so far I've given Bradley 4 rounds. I need to re-watch the whole fight again.

What are your thoughts after the 2nd viewing?

I think 11-1 was bad. 7-5 Bradley is worse because it gets the winner wrong. 8-4 Pac here but that was probably generous by a round.

[esconore]

116-112 Pac...I'm a firm believer of "You have to BEAT the champ to BE the champ."

[Stigma]

First view thought Pac won a close fight. Second view thought Bradley won a close fight. Depends on if you believe flurrying at the end of rounds is enough to outweigh outboxing a guy for the first 2 minutes or so of every round. Not to mention people seem to have this notion that Bradley was ever really stunned or hurt, and I never saw it.

You ever see Bradley's eyes kinda glazed over when he's clinching his way around the ring in the middle rounds? That was it.

[NChristo]

Wouldn't really change anything.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

no.............

[Gino Ros]

It was 14,000 and some change, but MGM cant hold anymore than 15,000.

I think 16.3K is the normal full house, and they stretch it to 17.1K for the really big events.

Floyd-Oscar and Lewis-Holyfield 2 were both 17,078. So that is capacity when you sell every seat in the house.