Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[samouraļ]

Finally just re-watched the fight (on an overseas station that I couldn't understand) and here is how I have it:

1. Pac
2. Bradley
3. Pac
4. Pac
5. Pac
6. Pac
7. Pac
8. Pac
9. Bradley
10. Bradley
11. Bradley
12. Bradley

Total: 115-113 Pac

The fight WAS closer than I initially had it but Pac still clearly won. The rounds where close but Pac landed more, threw more and had the higher %. How Bradley won is beyond me especially when JMM completely schooled Pac last year and lost by a UD. I had that fight a draw and won't dispute the outcome, I only question the outcome because JMM "beat" Pac more than Bradley did and still lost.

This tells me that Bob Arum has his hands wrapped around the sport pretty tightly. At the end of the day Bob is getting another in house Top Rank fight where he controls the money. Which yet again has nothing to do with giving the fans the fight they want...

However I hope Bradley's ankles will keep him from a rematch in November as I want to hear Bob's excuse as to why he doesn't want to make the Mayweather fight.

This just goes to show, no matter how close it was (I disagree with a few of your rounds, I think Bradley won maybe 3 at most), the fix was in. Everyone knows how Las Vegas typically works, and everyone thought Bradley couldn't win because he'd get robbed. The fact that the vast majority of viewers think Pacquiao won by a landslide - and even those being most generous to Bradley still have him losing - proves that this was a fix.

Las Vegas did the opposite of what it normally would have done for one of its biggest cash cows.

[-PBP-]

HBO didn't show any replays of Bradley's punches that landed any time during the whole fight.

It made you think that Bradley didn't land a punch the entire fight.

[Draper]

I had the fight even 114-114 with 4 swing rounds.

Watching it for the first time last night I assumed Pacquiao won atleast 9 rounds but watching it again without HBO's extremely bias commentary/scorecard this was a very close fight.
Pacquiao's workrate was very very low and Bradley outworked and outboxed him half the fight.
For example the first round, apart from the 4 left hands Manny landed at the end of the round Bradley controlled the action. Same with round 2.

People never gave credit to Bradleys counterpunches, headmovement, a constant jab in Manny's face and general control for most of the round.
Manny's legs are gone and it was cringing to watch him just slowly plod towards Bradley, he's basically a slugger now who fights in spurts.
Whether this was attributed to Pacquiaos training camp and Alex's Arizas decision not to train Pacquiao as intensely (because of the leg cramps) or because of old age it showed in the fight bigtime.

Pacquiaos power may have given him the slight edge but alot of his shots never landed, Jim Lampley as usual assumed the punch did land but watch it carefully and you'll see alot of them didnt.
I implore you to watch it again without sound, and score it round by round. You'll be amazed how inactive Pacquiao was and how he got countered alot with quick hooks, hes merely a shadow of his former self.

Add this to the fact that Bradley was practically immobilised because of two injured feet it doesnt look good for Pacquiao in the rematch.

The only head movement I saw was his head getting knocked back. Thats one thing about Bradley, he doesnt move his head. If he does, it's from getting rocked from or a punch, or he's getting truned and his eyes are away from the opponent. Thats why he's not really considered "slick".

If you count bradley punching mannys forearms and gloves as staying busy, then yes, he was busy. But that shouldnt win you rounds.

[Luilun]

I think there were a lot of rounds where Pac landed a few good punches, and the HBO commentary made it sound like the round was clearly in the bag. They entirely disregarded the fact that Tim was working and throwing punches the entire 3 minutes of most rounds.

Saying that; bull****. Bradley in no way won the fight. Maybe it was closer than the Lederman card, but he did not win.

Gotta force myself to rewatch that **** tonight.

you people have to stop being ****** it's basically impossible for someone to win a fight if they landed 100 punches less Connect percentage 19% to 34 % just impossible unless your hitting your guy with Iron Mike Tyson bad intention snapping your opponents head back with every punch and we all know Bradley punches did no damage most of them like 80% were windmill arm punches

[Always]

Finally just re-watched the fight (on an overseas station that I couldn't understand) and here is how I have it:

1. Pac
2. Bradley
3. Pac
4. Pac
5. Pac
6. Pac
7. Pac
8. Pac
9. Bradley
10. Bradley
11. Bradley
12. Bradley

Total: 115-113 Pac

The fight WAS closer than I initially had it but Pac still clearly won. The rounds where close but Pac landed more, threw more and had the higher %. How Bradley won is beyond me especially when JMM completely schooled Pac last year and lost by a UD. I had that fight a draw and won't dispute the outcome, I only question the outcome because JMM "beat" Pac more than Bradley did and still lost.

This tells me that Bob Arum has his hands wrapped around the sport pretty tightly. At the end of the day Bob is getting another in house Top Rank fight where he controls the money. Which yet again has nothing to do with giving the fans the fight they want...

However I hope Bradley's ankles will keep him from a rematch in November as I want to hear Bob's excuse as to why he doesn't want to make the Mayweather fight.

How can you give Rounds 1 and 3 to Manny? Manny did NOTHING in the 1st round, except for the last 10 seconds. Also, in the 3rd round, Bradley dominated the round, except for a little Pac flurry in the last 20 seconds....

[Russian Crushin]

Also the most googled sporting event of 2012 is Mayweather vs Cotto

2012 is not even 1/2 thru

[SugarRayCurtain]

This is worth watching, I really couldn't agree more with Dwyer
Couldnt have explained it better

[The Tornado]

And fuck this sport it doesnt deserve to keep surviving. I'm not lining these bitches pockets for fighting twice a year and the promoters putting on $70 ppv. Then they turn around and pull this BS on us.... terrible refs, boring fighters, blind judges, and shady promoters. Someone tell me why this sport deserves to continue being on tv.

I'm gonna go to the gym I'm gonna continue my personal amateur career not because i like to fight and it is a good workout but i refuse to put another dime in a fighter or promoters pocket or influence other people to.

[WESS]

How can you give Rounds 1 and 3 to Manny? Manny did NOTHING in the 1st round, except for the last 10 seconds. Also, in the 3rd round, Bradley dominated the round, except for a little Pac flurry in the last 20 seconds....

The first round could have went to either as neither did anything. I didn't see Bradley do enough to win the 3rd.

[TR vs. GB]

Im not talking about the 90's but the early 2000's

Numbers were twice what they are now

True but many more people had Premium cable television during a better economy as HBO had in 2011 under 27 million subscribers. One of the first things slashed in a bad economy is entertainment dollars and premium cable fits in their.