looks like marquez gets a whole lot more respect as a boxer for losing decisions to pacman than bradley..... who actually won a decision. bradley stopped a h.o.f. but not celebrated that way...that sucks.
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Not much different than before the fight. I LOL'd when people were claiming Timmy would be a force to be reckoned with at 147, like, seriously? 12 KO's, no power, and there was that one guy who insisted Timmy could go to 154 and be a force as well. LOL.
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My theory on why Manny got robbed.
I recently watched a 'throwback' video where mayweather talks about top rank fighters and touches on bob arum and fighter contracts. floyd talked about how cotto was interested in leaving top rank and that if he did do this Arum threatened and would make him lose a fight in order to mess up the fighters non top rank future. So for a fighter to not get screwed they would have to sign and extent their 'slave' contract with toprank.
I believe Manny and floyd both want to fight and that arum is the known stumbling block. Manny wants to leave arum to make the fight and arum knows this(alongside everyone else). So Arum fixed this fight for manny to lose as it will screw him and considerably damage mannys leverage when it comes to negotiations with floyd(mainly money negotiations). If manny loses he leaves top rank and arum has bradley as the new top rank champion and star. if manny does renew the contract after the loss we have a rematch where arum makes even more money.
I wouldn't put this past arum as he is such a scumbag that he would actually screw a fighter before they leave top rank in order to mess with their future. This is what i think has happened to manny.
thoughts?
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Originally posted by Russian Crushin View PostHBO and Showtime ratings have plummeted in the last decade
True they are not as strong as they were in the 90's but they are still holding strong same with Firday Night Fights. These numbers are for 2011.
Friday Night Fights
Date Main Event Viewers
1/7 Ruslan Provodnikov vs Mauricio Herrera 545,000
1/14 Peter Manfredo Jr vs Daniel Edouard 788,000
1/28 Chris Arreola vs Joey Abell 734,000
2/4 Sergio Mora vs Brian Vera 611,000
2/11 Antonin Decarie vs Shamone Alvarez 475,000
2/18 Fernando Guerrero vs Derrick Findley 603,000
3/4 Ismayl Sillakh vs Yordanis Despaigne 596,000
3/18 Brad Solomon vs Demetrius Hopkins 522,000
3/25 Erislandy Lara vs Carlos Molina 421,000
4/22 Breidis Prescott vs Bayan Jargal 706,000
5/13 Kendall Holt vs Julio Diaz 347,000
7/8 Jesus Gonzales vs Francisco Sierra 549,000
7/15 Pawel Wolak vs Delvin Rodriguez 525,000
7/22 Anthony Dirrell vs Kevin Engel 545,000
7/29 Lamont Peterson vs Victor Cayo 539,000
Date Main Event Viewers
1/29 Timothy Bradley vs Devon Alexander 1,345,000
2/19 Fernando Montiel vs Nonito Donaire 1,040,000
3/5 Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton 1,381,000
4/16 Andre Berto vs Victor Ortiz 1,542,000
5/21 Jean Pascal vs Bernard Hopkins II 1,837,000
6/4 Sebastian Zbik vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr 1,497,000
6/18 Saul Alvarez vs Ryan Rhodes 1,550,000
7/2 Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye (Same-Day Replay) 1,242,000
On July 9, HBO had a double-header with Paul Williams vs Erislandy Lara in the main event and at 10:52 there were 940,000 viewers.
July 23 was the Amir Khan vs Zab Judah show. Numbers there were 1.417 million at 10:25.
Showtime Boxing
Date Main Event Viewers
2/26 Miguel Acosta vs Brandon Rios 709,000
5/14 Andre Ward vs Arthur Abraham 610,000
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Ive seen about 4 rounds of this fight and can understand why the judges had it so close and why it was so difficult to score. Its obvious Bradley hurt his ankle early by the way he was moving and honestly I think pac got lucky he did. It took away from almost every facet of Bradley's game and still was able to keep the fight close in most every round. Pac should have blown him out but to me he seemed reluctant to let the old pac loose, the guy that was able to buzzsaw you into the canvas with aggression.
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Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut View Poststill the best fighter at 140 and I think he could probably beat a lot of fighters at 147 not named Pacquiao or Mayweather...the little guy is tough but he may have put on too much muscles, he needs to maybe get a little leaner
Nah khan definitely rules 140 and he would beat bradley.
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Originally posted by PBP View PostYou think your theory applies to the Gamboa vs Rios debacle as well?
we saw rios vs abril were we know arum will pay off judges for rios and not only manny. so gamboa was in danger.
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