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Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostThe problem with your analysis is that you demand Manny to fight Floyd's opponents at the weights that Floyd fought them but fail to concede that Manny will never be as big as Floyd.
If Floyd can do it, then Manny could do it. Hasn't that been the sales pitch all along for Manny at 147lbs? It isn't a matter of whether Pacquiao could have fought all of his WW opponents at their comfortable weights without any catchweights or weight stipulations. Its a matter of stacking the deck in his favor. If you recall, Pacquiao is supposedly a jrMW titlist.
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostManny has never made 147 and has been giving away a few pounds at the scale whenever he fights at Welterweight.
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostHis fight with Bradley is at 147 but I guarantee that neither will weigh in at the maximum.
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostSo, why would he give away over 7 lbs by campaigning at 154?
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostFloyd tried 154 twice and on both occaisions he looked less than stellar. Imagine
how it would affect Pacquiao considering that he'd be coming from a much smaller size.
Floyd came up and beat the divisions best fighter .. only allowing him to win 2 rounds out of 12 and he looked less than stellar? Floyd won equally as easy against DLH who came in at 170lbs. It wasn't a 7lb difference for Mayweather. Hell, even Ortiz came in at 165lbs. Floyd came to fight.
Pacquiao is not some "oh so small" guy like some of you make him out to be. Like I said, Manny's 2" shorter than both Floyd and Mosley.
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostFloyd himself has taken advantage of his bargaining power to negotiate terms in his favor.
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostIn fact, it seems that his terms Marquez seems to be the most eggregious exploitation in recent memory. You seem to forget that he bloated Marquez seven pounds and still came in 4 lbs over the agreed weight and he didn't make any attempt to lose any of it. Now, that's stacking the deck for you right there.
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostHe also fought Oscar at a lower catch weight since you like talking about those. Pacquiao and Floyd both do it and so have many in history. To call out one without calling out the other is just plain nuthuggery.
Originally posted by pnksntdead View PostAs for the Bradley fight, it will be a great win for Manny. Most impressive since Cotto and definitely the best fight that he could get outside of Floyd and JMM. Haters are already hedging right now by discrediting Bradley just incase Manny looks impressive.
Pacquiao asked for a catchweight even though he had made the division limit twice prior to fighting Cotto. Cotto, who had just won a vacant paper title from the lowly Michael Jennings, looked horrible against Clottey, who has never beaten a WW top 5 in his entire career. So how was the Cotto win "great"?
Was it because Cotto still had name recognition? It sure wasn't because Cotto looked like a force to be reckoned with since being smashed by Margarito.
So please explain why it was so "great" .. because it seemed more like opportunistic. Actually, the FACT that Pacquiao targeted most of his WW opposition coming off huge career losses seems opportunistic.
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Originally posted by Primera View Postcool stuff, hopefully pacquiao comes out with some badass green+black trunks and shoes/gloves
haven't seen a boxer wear a green oriented outfit in a while
maybe he can have crosses on his gloves too
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Robberies?
That doesnt happen in a Pacquiao fight. He either knocks them out or UD'd them.
114-113 Victory over marquez warrants the term robbery from Pac haters because its the best thing they have.
Imagine shutting down Mosley with a KD to boot equals a bad performance from these ****ers??
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