Dzinzurik

[cleaner147]

Racism has nothing to do with it, especially when you have no idea what race I am.

But just to keep it fun, here are some other guys I have zero respect for because they don't fight anyone:

Andre Berto
David Haye
Joe Calzaghe

and up until one month ago, Nonito Donaire

really?

you need to understand that the fighters have nothing, zero, nada to do with matchmaking unless youre your own promoter.

Americans have no interest in fighters from Europe. So European fighters stay at home defending their titles doing big cash. They are keepin boxing alive up there. The arenas, stadiums or whatever are always sold out and the TV ratings are huge.

[*2TOUGH*]

[DoktorSleepless]

He's had a belt at 154 since 2005. You can't BS me into thinking he tried like hell for 6 years to get a big fight because he absolutely did not, and the evidence is simply the fact that he was in no big negotiations at any point and never called out a single good fighter. If he doesn't fight, nobody makes money. That's a 2-way street between him and his promoters. They both want to make money. He doesn't fight, neither makes money.

You probably haven't heard him call out anyone because who the **** keeps up with Ukrainian fighters? You probably don't. He call out Williams over a couple years ago and tried to make the fight if you want an example. Williams ducked him and fought a shot Winky instead.

[*2TOUGH*]

If you actually knew his situation in his last several years, you would know why he has progressed the way he did

Pls explain...............................

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He moved up in weight and lost to one of the best fighters on the planet. He can still do business at 154. ***y is just too good for anyone at 154-160

[Russian Crushin]

Pls explain...............................

DoktorSleepless explained it in the post right before mine

He was in court instead of the ring because of his promoter universum

[Heru]

Dzinziruk was in a legal battle with Universum to break his contract exactly because his career wasn't going anywhere and Universum wasn't letting him get big fights. He just took the biggest risk of his life against mother****ing Martinez and you're accusing him of being a coward? Man, you're dumb.

In most cases I'd agree with the TS, but in Dzinzurik's case, this is the right answer. He had to go through what Gennady Golovkin is going through right now. There are plenty of European titleholders to criticize because of this (Sturm, Sylvester, Sechenko, Zaveck, Brahmaer, Huck, Zbik, Sartison, etc.), but Dzinzurik is not one of them. He's of the Kotelnik mold.

[cleaner147]

I don't know if I spelled his name right, nor do I care. It doesn't really matter at this point because we'll never see this guy again. Yeah, there's no shame in losing to Martinez, but what is this guy even doing in the same ring as Sergio? That's robbing fans of money.

The point is I'm tired of these Euro/Western Asian trash fighters with inflated records coasting along trying to make some easy money and avoiding big names until they're ready to cash out. He's in his mid 30s, so yeah, he probably doesn't feel like boxing anymore. So he took one shot at the end of his career and got completely embarrassed. On the other hand, you have guys like Martinez and Winky Wright who have been actively trying to get big names their whole career, FORCED to fight in ****ty Europe just to make some form of money whatsoever.

I have no respect for guys like Dzinzurik, Sturm and especially Calzaghe hiding in Europe until they realize their careers are over before they take a shot at a meaningful fight. You can always make money in Europe, but you can't build a really strong legacy when you're in your late 30s.

Calzaghe's best wins = 43 year old Hopkins, Mikkel Kessler (who was much more dominated by Andre Ward) and a shot Roy Jones Jr. If that is a legacy, then Hatton must be considered a god in Britain.

funny thing is you mentioned the guys who completely dismissed guys who has been considered best of the division, stars, etc.

Calzaghe beat Lacy in fashion

Sturm beat DLH with easy, but his style was not respected. hes not the big puncher, or come forward bull.

Dzinziruk beat Santos. Jes Santos back in the day was givin Maragrito hell etc

[Smash]

Maybe because they go to america and get robbed like sturm did, he beat a prime de la hoya, look what happened to kotelnik, he beat alexander but got jobbed too, a lot of fighters know they will need a KO if they want to get the nod in the states, thats just the way it is

Why are you slagging off dzinrzuk or whatever his name was, he just had a good win over santos who is a good fighter and id say he could still be very competitive at 154 if he keeps going, he lost to a great fighter in sergio, happens all the time

Look at martinez himself, he was robbed against cintron in florida and given a 119 - 110 decision against him in the first williams fight!! Unless you got powerful backers or can KO your opponent the states may well be a graveyard for you

[Smash]

As for calzaghe, yeah i agree he should have left the uk before he did imo but how can people criticism that when the vast majority of american fighters never leave their backyards?? pot kettle black i think