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Should fighters even waste their time fighting hopkins
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Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Postim a fan of both but lets list their best wins
roy-4 division titlist
toney
hopkins
ruiz
tarver
hopkins-20 title defenses-2 division champion
tarver
winky
trinidad
pavlik
oscar
i rate hopkins higher due to longevity
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Vacant IBF Champion - Bernard Hopkins himself – 1 Title defence
Top 5 Opposition
168
James Toney - #1
Vinny Pazienza - #5
5 Title defences
175
Montel Griffin- #4
Vigil Hill - #1
Reggie Johnson - #4
Eric Harding-#3
Antonio Tarver - #1
12 title defences
Heavyweight
John Ruiz - #5
Including a very solid win against Mike Mcallum.
Bernard Hopkins
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Atwon Echols - #5
Keith Holmes - #3
Trinidad - #1
William Joppy- #3
Robert Allen - #2
De La Hoya - #2
Howard Eastman - #1
20 title defences
175
Antonio Tarver - #1
It's debateable, but to say 'its not even close' is just simply a preposterous statment.
Roy was more dominant than Hopkins in their primes IMO and whilst both were active in their primes Roy was THE best fighter in the world.
Roy is greater than Hopkins IMO.
I agree it's debateable though to an extent.
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[QUOTE=LarryX2011;10147437]im a fan of both but lets list their best wins
roy-4 division titlist
toney
hopkins
ruiz
tarver
hopkins-20 title defenses-2 division champion
tarver
winky
trinidad
Oscar
Pavlik
Okay Roy fought them all at there weights tarver was messed up after rocky be honest grimaced never should have went above 154 winky was just to little for it. And Roy had hella defences to like 14 or sum so i mean Wth? At least they werent smaller people Roy beat. And Oscar got a gift desicion when he won that title
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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View PostObviously there are a number of people that want to fight him. Plus he's ranked #1 at Light heavyweight
I mean Calzaghe didn't get any credit for beating Hopkins, and that was a 43 year old Hopkins. Pascal is going to fight a 47 year old version.
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Originally posted by Sweet Jesus View PostBut why? The man is old. He brings no money to the table. You won't get credit for beating him because he's reaching 50.
I mean Calzaghe didn't get any credit for beating Hopkins, and that was a 43 year old Hopkins. Pascal is going to fight a 47 year old version.
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[QUOTE=MRBOOMER;10147499]Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Postim a fan of both but lets list their best wins
roy-4 division titlist
toney
hopkins
ruiz
tarver
hopkins-20 title defenses-2 division champion
tarver
winky
trinidad
Oscar
Pavlik
Okay Roy fought them all at there weights tarver was messed up after rocky be honest grimaced never should have went above 154 winky was just to little for it. And Roy had hella defences to like 14 or sum so i mean Wth? At least they werent smaller people Roy beat. And Oscar got a gift desicion when he won that title
God knows why Winky's name is in the hat.
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Originally posted by Sweet Jesus View PostBut why? The man is old. He brings no money to the table. You won't get credit for beating him because he's reaching 50.
I mean Calzaghe didn't get any credit for beating Hopkins, and that was a 43 year old Hopkins. Pascal is going to fight a 47 year old version.
Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post
Okay Roy fought them all at there weights tarver was messed up after rocky be honest grimaced never should have went above 154 winky was just to little for it. And Roy had hella defences to like 14 or sum so i mean Wth? At least they werent smaller people Roy beat. And Oscar got a gift desicion when he won that title
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