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    #81
    Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
    alot of people argue roy lost that first tarver fight..plus hopkins jumped 2 divisions at 40 and beat tarver
    Hopkins beat the tarver that just came down from heavyweight tarver was never that greAt he just had roys card to beat him and the first jones tarver fight you should flurries wAsnt doing anything it just looked good cause no one else did it.

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      #82
      Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
      im a fan of both but lets list their best wins

      roy-4 division titlist

      toney
      hopkins
      ruiz
      tarver


      hopkins-20 title defenses-2 division champion

      tarver
      winky
      trinidad
      pavlik
      oscar


      i rate hopkins higher due to longevity
      Roy Jones Jr

      160
      Vacant IBF Champion - Bernard Hopkins himself – 1 Title defence

      Top 5 Opposition

      168
      James Toney - #1
      Vinny Pazienza - #5

      5 Title defences

      175
      Montel Griffin- #4
      Vigil Hill - #1
      Reggie Johnson - #4
      Eric Harding-#3
      Antonio Tarver - #1

      12 title defences

      Heavyweight
      John Ruiz - #5

      Including a very solid win against Mike Mcallum.


      Bernard Hopkins

      160
      Atwon Echols - #5
      Keith Holmes - #3
      Trinidad - #1
      William Joppy- #3
      Robert Allen - #2
      De La Hoya - #2
      Howard Eastman - #1

      20 title defences

      175
      Antonio Tarver - #1


      It's debateable, but to say 'its not even close' is just simply a preposterous statment.

      Roy was more dominant than Hopkins in their primes IMO and whilst both were active in their primes Roy was THE best fighter in the world.

      Roy is greater than Hopkins IMO.

      I agree it's debateable though to an extent.

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        #83
        [QUOTE=LarryX2011;10147437]im a fan of both but lets list their best wins

        roy-4 division titlist

        toney
        hopkins
        ruiz
        tarver


        hopkins-20 title defenses-2 division champion

        tarver
        winky
        trinidad
        Oscar
        Pavlik

        Okay Roy fought them all at there weights tarver was messed up after rocky be honest grimaced never should have went above 154 winky was just to little for it. And Roy had hella defences to like 14 or sum so i mean Wth? At least they werent smaller people Roy beat. And Oscar got a gift desicion when he won that title

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          #84
          Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
          Obviously there are a number of people that want to fight him. Plus he's ranked #1 at Light heavyweight
          But why? The man is old. He brings no money to the table. You won't get credit for beating him because he's reaching 50.

          I mean Calzaghe didn't get any credit for beating Hopkins, and that was a 43 year old Hopkins. Pascal is going to fight a 47 year old version.

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            #85
            Btw

            I meant trinadad this iPhone is annoying sometimes-_-

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              #86
              Originally posted by Sweet Jesus View Post
              But why? The man is old. He brings no money to the table. You won't get credit for beating him because he's reaching 50.

              I mean Calzaghe didn't get any credit for beating Hopkins, and that was a 43 year old Hopkins. Pascal is going to fight a 47 year old version.
              To get a shot at being able to say i beat B hop

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                #87
                [QUOTE=MRBOOMER;10147499]
                Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
                im a fan of both but lets list their best wins

                roy-4 division titlist

                toney
                hopkins
                ruiz
                tarver


                hopkins-20 title defenses-2 division champion

                tarver
                winky
                trinidad
                Oscar
                Pavlik

                Okay Roy fought them all at there weights tarver was messed up after rocky be honest grimaced never should have went above 154 winky was just to little for it. And Roy had hella defences to like 14 or sum so i mean Wth? At least they werent smaller people Roy beat. And Oscar got a gift desicion when he won that title
                Winky Wright isn't even close to being one of Hopkins best wins.

                God knows why Winky's name is in the hat.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post
                  To get a shot at being able to say i beat B hop
                  There's already a bunch of people that can say that. And they can say that they didn't have to fight a 50 year old man to do it.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Sweet Jesus View Post
                    But why? The man is old. He brings no money to the table. You won't get credit for beating him because he's reaching 50.

                    I mean Calzaghe didn't get any credit for beating Hopkins, and that was a 43 year old Hopkins. Pascal is going to fight a 47 year old version.
                    Why don't you ask the guys that want to fight him Pascal, Dawson and Cloud all want to fight him, shi!t I bet Froch would even want to fight him after the super six. I bet you $100 none of these guys give a flying fuck what people on the internet think

                    Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post

                    Okay Roy fought them all at there weights tarver was messed up after rocky be honest grimaced never should have went above 154 winky was just to little for it. And Roy had hella defences to like 14 or sum so i mean Wth? At least they werent smaller people Roy beat. And Oscar got a gift desicion when he won that title
                    the rocky excuse is the lamest excuse in all of boxing, almost as bad as his initial excuse of being poisoned. The giant milk dud lost because hopkins is better, plain and simple.

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                      #90
                      [QUOTE=IronDanHamza;10147513]
                      Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post

                      Winky Wright isn't even close to being one of Hopkins best wins.

                      God knows why Winky's name is in the hat.
                      Thank you Hopkins should be a catch weight king considering he fought plenty of em

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