FLOYD MAYWEATHER:"I really don't have nothing against Manny Pacquiao.Nobody reach out

[The Gambler1981]

Good point. I think the longer the wait, the bigger the advantage for Floyd.

I don't think it makes that much difference, but who knows it could as it is tough to say without actually seeing how both men age as neither has seemed to fall off that much at present.

There are logical arguments though that can be used to support the case though.

[The Gambler1981]

so was greenburg lying when he said he was mediating the 2nd round of negotiations?

Just because some numbers were thrown around or some indirect talks happened doesn't really mean they ever got down to business~

Do you see where this is going.

[brick wall]

Why people dog Greenburg all the time and ***** about him playing dirty pool and not being fair~

Also he hasn't done a good job of running HBO so how exactly do you call him a good businessman? because he managed to stick around and glad hand his way to the top?

Just because Greenburg says the sides talked, doesn't mean they ever really got as far as negotiating. It is a matter of interpretation at that point they talked but if they never got down to brass tacks can it really be called negotiations (it can go both ways).


Also keep in mind Greenburg has been made to look very bad, so it is in his interests to make himself look good by trying to be the white knight that tried his best to make it come off.

quotes from greeburg...

"we were heavily involved in the negotiations"


"I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together"


the word used was negotiation...not just simple talks.
of all the people involved, greenburg has the highest credibility. he got no hidden agenda. he just wanted the fight to happen. if he lies in favor of one party, he will have to offend the other. the more the fight will not happen. he wasn't lying...negotiations took place but only one party was willing.

[The Gambler1981]

quotes from greeburg...

"we were heavily involved in the negotiations"


"I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together"


the word used was negotiation...not just simple talks.
of all the people involved, greenburg has the highest credibility. he got no hidden agenda. he just wanted the fight to happen. if he lies in favor of one party, he will have to offend the other. the more the fight will not happen. he wasn't lying...negotiations took place but only one party was willing.

We meaning HBO, meaning the sides never had direct talks with each other. to me that is not negotiations and means they didn't get far.

They obvious never met Floyd's demands then and were only willing to go so far, thus it was always a non starter. That is not one side was willing, that is one side wanted to appear willing.


It benefits Greenburg to look like the white knight especially when he normally gets shat on.

[King Ju-Ju]

idk anymore with this guy. ive given up.

[Pullcounter]

quotes from greeburg...

"we were heavily involved in the negotiations"


"I had been negotiating with a representative from each side since May 2nd, carefully trying to put the fight together"


the word used was negotiation...not just simple talks.
of all the people involved, greenburg has the highest credibility. he got no hidden agenda. he just wanted the fight to happen. if he lies in favor of one party, he will have to offend the other. the more the fight will not happen. he wasn't lying...negotiations took place but only one party was willing.

pwnage right here!!!!

[The Gambler1981]

pwnage right here!!!!

Not really, same old same old.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

"Giving blood doesnt make you weak, not being able to juice because you have to give blood makes you weak" --- Floyd Mayweather

notice how the clowns are harping on the whether there were negotiations or not! Define neegotiations btw.

But in reality, pacq aint agreed to OSTs regardless of what top rank force feeds u idiots! if he did, we would see him doing OST in his fights.

Any sign of that? Thought so.

[ajohnz]

Floyd hasn't done complete OST either. They had an 18-day cutoff for the Mosley fight and when Manny offered him 7-days cutoff he didn't accept. For some reason, Floyd is fixated on 18-day cutoff. That's what he offered Manny in the first negotiation and what was implemented in the Mosley fight. Hmmm.

the fight with mosley had random testing up until the fight. the fact there was no testing within 18 days was random it wasnt agreed upon. just correcting facts as i stay in the middle.

[loui_ludwig]

Did not read all the posts cuz its already 23 pages long.

Somebody already mentioned it but HBO's Greenburg reach out in behalf of Top Rank/Team Pacuiao. And where was Floyd, not saying ****.

As far as Pac beating JMM on a split decision, well somebody should tell Floyd that Pac fough JMM at Juan's 2 best weight, 126-130. JMM moved up 2 weights to fight Floyd. And Floyd said it himself, it was a tune up fight against JMM.