Comments Thread For: Arum: Berto is The Toughest Sell For Manny Pacquiao

[empiricix]

You folks can say anything you want about Arum, but he has proven time and again that he is a great promoter. How many of you *****ed about and threatened to boycott the Pac-Margarito fight and pronounced that it would never do more than 700K PPV buys? Where did the 1.15M PPV audience come from?

Arum is right in saying that hardcore boxing fans only account for around 150K buys, while the majority are casual fans who will only watch 'name' fighters. Even Marquez and Berto combined in one card could only pull in a paying audience of <5000. I would be surprised if it did 300K PPV buys.

The fact is that Arum knows what sells and what doesn't. If his cards keep selling, it only means that casual fans keep getting hooked to boxing, and the sport as a whole remains viable regardless of the *****ing and whining among its hardcore fans.

[hb stowe]

Thats my point. Expecting a WW to jump up and fight the best at 154 as well as expecting him to trim down and fight the best at 140 is asking a lot. Im also kind of surprised you would suggest for him to take a catchweight fight. Im not attacking your opinion I just think he's reached the point Floyd did, its either keep moving up or take tune ups. After Berto there in absolutely nobody left at WW.

why is it that pacquiao will have to accommodate these fighters. they are the challengers. pacquiao dictates the terms if they dont like it they can take a hike. it will take them at least six fights to make the same money for a pacquiao fight.

[empiricix]

ok its starting to come out now, arum and team pac dont want pac to loose plain and simple, if mayweather said all the things we have heard recently from arum and roach people would be raising hell about it, clotty was nobody and he got a easy chance to fight pac hatton was no1 before and after mayweather and just because may fought him they felt pac should, margarito was never on the radar and he got a chance in a heartbeat, berto is at least trying to show hes ready to fight and martinez isnt that big if you ask me, pac needs to fight some1 who is out there proving a point before he gets any more credit from me and alot of other REAL boxing fans cotto was his only recent win that helps his rep in the last few years clotty margs and hoya were nobodys when pac faced them and pac is getting all this praise just for winning but against WHO??? nobody who is on top of there game and winning lots of fights, im a huge fan of pacman and i dont blame him but his team and arum are fooling alot of people out there

Pac no longer needs to prove anything more to you or anyone else. His legacy is already secure. If you still aren't a fan after all this time, then you will never be. He is only fighting his last 2 or 3 bouts to entertain people and pull in funds for his political career.

Let's face it, except for a possible bout with Floyd or a gross mismatch against Martinez, any other opponent will be *****ed about by hardcore fans. Some would even prefer if he just retires if he and Floyd can't get it on. But the fact is that whoever Pac fights, people will watch because the guy brings excitement for casual fans. So, let's quit all the talk about needing to prove himself further and just enjoy the show while it lasts.

[empiricix]

*****...

in the the other thread ...
- Fight JMM .. dont duck him!
- Fight SErgio! Dont duck him
- fight Mosley! dont duck him!
- fight Berto! Dont duck him!

LOL ******?

if you will summarize them all, they want pac to fight them in 1 night or else he is ducking the others.

They don't even mention where floyd is.

hahaha all roads leads to pac!

Yeah, everyone has a horse in this derby, and whoever doesn't get picked is being ducked. In the meantime, one horse is on vacation and no one is *****ing about him. You just can't win with these *****s.

[don miguel]

Despite how anybody feels about Berto, I am very interested in seeing a Pacquiao - Berto fight. I think Berto would pose some problems to Pacquiao, considering he is just as fast as him, a technically sound fighter, strong and aggressive. I am very curious to see this matchup more so than Mosley and Marquez, because of Berto is a young hungry fighter.

I want to see that fight too...

Problem is, boxing today is business first. Money dictates fights.

Why are they blaming Pacquiao for his actions. He earned where he is now..

That's what De La Hoya was doing before and Floyd is doing now. I'm sure that's what will Berto do when and if he is the draw...

[hb stowe]

most championshp bouts in history idiot, bums arent champs.whatsamatter jealous your boy wont even touch the records or accomplidshments of the greats?? and the last person to be talking about bums is a pac fan seeing as he fights NOTHING BUT WASHED UP LOSERS COMING OFF OF DEFEATS CHAVEZ DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE. DUCKING A 37 YEAR OLD LITEWEIGHT, A BERTO AND WANTING TO FIGHT SHOT WAHED UP OLD AND TERRIBLE LOOKING MOSLEY???? WHO FIGHTS BUMS?????? PFFF

now your are saying that margarito is a loser. but before the the pac- margarito fight you were saying margarito gonna beat the pacman. i know pac really hurt your feelings. pac hit a nerve. dont be hating.

[counterpunch]

In that case, Mayweather is right all along that title belt just collect dust and is paperweight. Imagine, Berto defended his WBC belt, I think 3 times has no right to fight someone like Pacquiao? While Clottey and Margarito who have nothing when fought Pacquiao has right ? I think we should just encourage the promoters to Match up Stallone vs. Schwarzenegger box for HBO PPV. LOL!

[don miguel]

Pac no longer needs to prove anything more to you or anyone else. His legacy is already secure. If you still aren't a fan after all this time, then you will never be. He is only fighting his last 2 or 3 bouts to entertain people and pull in funds for his political career.

Let's face it, except for a possible bout with Floyd or a gross mismatch against Martinez, any other opponent will be *****ed about by hardcore fans. Some would even prefer if he just retires if he and Floyd can't get it on. But the fact is that whoever Pac fights, people will watch because the guy brings excitement for casual fans. So, let's quit all the talk about needing to prove himself further and just enjoy the show while it lasts.

Well said...

Most boxing historians are saying Pac is one if not the most exciting boxer ever. And his kind come once in a lifetime.

And they keep on saying enjoy the show while it last. And these haters keep on saying these BS. If Pac quits right now... I don't know what will happen to boxing

[don miguel]

In that case, Mayweather is right all along that title belt just collect dust and is paperweight. Imagine, Berto defended his WBC belt, I think 3 times has no right to fight someone like Pacquiao? While Clottey and Margarito who have nothing when fought Pacquiao has right ? I think we should just encourage the promoters to Match up Stallone vs. Schwarzenegger box for HBO PPV. LOL!

Berto defended his title to a guy rated #10 but is a class C boxer.
Clottey and Margarito have nothing but are considered at least among the top 5 at 147.

Barrera gave up his belt when Pacquiao fought him the first time but was considered the best in his weight class

If Berto fought someone among the top three, maybe more people would recognize him and increase his drawing power and Arum might choose him to fight Pacquiao next

[Bong Bong]

Maybe they should have a twin header :

Pacquiao - Mosley

Marquez - Berto

Winner vs. winner. People would surely buy this PPV if this is the setup. All of them have just completed their last fights so everybody's free.