Comments Thread For: Martinez: I Don't Blame Arum For Protecting Pacquiao

[serv]

I dont know about the rest of the guys here, but I love to see this Pac/Martinez fight... at 160 fight night.
Is it only me?

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

You're such an ignorant, no wonder, You're a certified as Floydiots! Pac just weighed 144.5lbs when he fought Margarito, FYI! Or maybe you're talking after scaling.. poor boy!

-If you had a better grasp of the english language, you would have understood what I had said, but you don't, so you can't understand without me s.
I meant that Pac has come in at a weight as high as 149 on fight night. and not saying that he weighed higher in this fight. It's hard to take you serious knowing that your a hardcore filipino foreign national (and your calling me poor boy? lol), who all seem to be a bit more Pac Krazy and biasly ******ed with a low set of standards for Pac.

Hahaha! Hey, Floydiots, why not call for Martinez then to fight Haye or the Klits brothers if size isn't the issue??! Maybe, martinez would KO the Klits by his SKILLS alone!

-Yeah, there's QUITE A BIG DIFFERENCE between Pac/Martinez and Martinez/Klitschko's,........PacFob!

Your not even being realistic about the weight difference. Martinez would only have to drop ONE weight class to reclaim his old title/face the new "WBC jr. middleweight Champion of the Galaxy!"
While the Clits would have to drop several. Only women and Fobs over-exaggerate things...

Floydiots wanted to say Pac as God, but sadly, using Pac fans in delivering their superfluous idolatry! FYI again, Pac isn't God and beatable too, just like your idol ducking Floyd is, but then Pac reaped so much respect and admiration not only in the Philippines but around the world, esp. the boxing fans! I know, you're a pac fan too, but just jealous of his achievement and his accumulated fortunes.. right, Floydiot?!

-I'm not jealous of Pac and I don't hate him. I don't really even see a point in being jealous of someone else's success. Kind of ****** because what good is that going to do me? It sounds more like that is something YOU are more familiar with and focus too much on, my little Fob buddy. Hate is a strong of a word and if anything, I dislike *******s because they're known to be biased, close-minded, and unreasonable if you don't like think he's the G.O.A.T.

Damaged fighters? Who was Floyd had fought without any loses? Correct it was Hatton.. and only him! How about Pac? he fought Jorge Solis (33-0-2) then and wins by 8 rounds KO, Emmanuel Lucero (21-0-1) then and wins by 3 rounds TKO, Seung-Ko Chae (23-0-0) then and wins by 1 round KO, and Medguen Singsurat (18-0-0) then and wins by KO.

-Please, Why are you even trying to name these nobody's. And how long have you been watching boxing for?
Did you hop on the Pac bandwagon just a few years ago, like all the others.
All those nobody's you named don't even equal up to Diego Corrales. Near 5'11, undefeated (33-0, 27 KO's), REAL SERIOUS THREAT.

Floyd just dismantled him without taking any damage.

Sub-far Levels? excuse me! Barrera and Morales are the 2 legendary fighters who were at their primes when they are fighting each others for supremacy in FW, but when Pac comes into mixed, both are just not on pac's level, and suddenly both becomes olds in the eyes of the public, but the truth, they were just becomes old because they could not just cope up with the presence of the real king on their weight class! Hatton was then the lineal champ in the JWW. Diaz was then the WBC LW champ. Cotto and MArgarito who both never been fought by ducking Floyd even when they openly challenged him, but instead he went into hiding by retiring, were also both competitive and strong!

-Barrera and Morales were already done from their 3 war trilogy with each other. Pac caught them on the down slide.
-Knee grow, Please.David Diaz was the WEAKEST Champ in the Lightweight division. They COULD have gone after a higher quality opponent, but why not take the easy belt and oddly, move up another weight class almost immediately.
-Hatton, destroyed by mayweather
-De La Hoya, drastically weight drained,no energy, no competition.
(De la hoya lost to floyd before Pac and almot 10 pounds heavier)
-Cotto, ruined by Plasterito
-Plasterito, demolished by Mosley

Are you so ****** that you don't see the pattern?
The hand picked match making.

That's another trait all you *******s share, your all so dense.

I'm a Pac doubter, not a hater. Big difference, Fob. All the bull**** from Team Pac started after the Marquez rematch. BS that I shouldn't have to explain AGAIN.


For this, I agree with you Floydiot! Pac will most likely taking Mosley.. for whom Pac should fight when your idol ducking Floyd is refused to fight him without any apparent reasons, all his demands including the USADA blood testing demand was meted, and yet he couldn't even offer good explanation of ducking Pac, why? because he is right now exposed, checked-mate by Pac! He's owned!

If you can't notice the drastic change after the Marquez rematch, then i don't know what to tell you. You need to wipe the **** from your eyes, for one.

What's not strange about a featherweight all of a sudden sudden moving up 3 weight classes while improving punching power, staying lean/ripped and retaining speed. Oh yeah, while also having a higher pain threshold against career jr. WW/welterweights Champions when just over 2.5 years ago Pac's knees buckled at the hands of a career featherweight. In a rematch, where Freddie Roach stated Pac would blow him out this time because he's a much improved, two handed fighter. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT REMATCH!

JMM outpointing/out boxing Pac for most of the fight. Same **** as in 04'

What's even stranger is that Pac refused to take RANDOM blood testing. Asking for a cut off date IS NOT RANDOM BLOOD TESTING.

The fight fell apart because Pac wanted a longer cut off date.
So in reality, Pac never agreed to RANDOM BLOOD TESTING, which he KNEW WAS REQUIRED TO MAKE THE FIGHT!!!!!


Stop with the bull**** already.
You know what's up!
Quit playing ******

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I dont know about the rest of the guys here, but I love to see this Pac/Martinez fight... at 160 fight night.
Is it only me?

160??? oh no!

[serv]

160??? oh no!

160 fight night bro... not weigh-in

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

Your just blind if you dont see height and weight advantage you one of the sore loser who wants pac to fight bigger guys and praying for his fall down. ask arum to accpet the fight pac already agreed to fight your midget picker GOD! he wants the piece of the pie! If his so( martinez) great, fight bigger guys than him just like pac did who started 103 lbder and beat bigger man. Fight BUTE he cant cause its bigger right?..lol

Pac/Martinez won't happen because Roach will never allow Pac to step in the ring with him, let alone fight.

Roach know's Pac's limitations. The size/weight issue isn't as big of a problem as the SKILL issue.

Martinez is a slick, counter punching boxer.

Pac's weaknesses (movement and counter-punching)

You guys should know that by now.

THAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM, Martinez's skill, not his physical size

BTW, dumba**, bute is signed with SHOWTIME, so that fight won't happen anytime soon, but your still too ****** to understand that.

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

I dont know about the rest of the guys here, but I love to see this Pac/Martinez fight... at 160 fight night.
Is it only me?

Not unless you want to see Pac being carted away in an ambulance.

I wouldn't.

[unlimitedboxing]

SM is baiting the top 2 cash cows of boxing to a weight he can easily make a a weight that would considerably slow down pacman and pbf. SM is hoping that he would have a great chance of winning at this catchweight hes just 5'10 to 5'11 antonio margarito was 5'11" and admitted he was not drained and comfortably made 150 so its gonna be easy for SM to get to 155 as dibella said SM is not a big boned MW. SM can surely make 149 for these 2 top p4p hes just afraid of being blown out if the speed of the 2 best p4p is intact.... but what can he do hes not the cash cow so he has to take the risk if he really want to have a huge payday...its what pacman did when dela hoya challenged him he risked goin up 2 division and being blown out by a much bigger fighter and a well known hard puncher at that just to face the cash cow and guess what it paid off hes now the new cash cow so Sergio if you wanna be the next cash cow you have to take risks and go down 149 who knows man you might get lucky again.

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160 fight night bro... not weigh-in

i dont think sergio will come fight night at 160. 168 at the least.

[nelsoncm]

i dont think sergio will come fight night at 160. 168 at the least.

I thought Sergio was smart all along. Didn't he just say Pac was too small?

Now he's thinking P4P where #3 fights # 1 or # 2. Assuming Wlad was # 2, I don't think he'd have the balls to call out Wlad.

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

Are you saying, sir that it is alright for Martinez not to fight north of MW so not to lose speed, but it's not Ok for Pacquiao to do the same thing? Isn't that a little bit double standard, sir?

Pacquiao said he has no speed at 150, that is why he came in at 144.5 during the Pac/Marg bout. He said he ain't fighting north of 147 anymore due to lack of speed at said weights.
Even at WW he fought fighters 2" to 4' bigger than him. I consider that gutsier than what Sergio is doing, sir.

Pac/Mosley is still speculation at this time... Pac camp is still waiting for floyd until the end of this year. If floyd doesn't want to come out of vacation, there are other fighters being considered such as Berto, Marquez... and yes, Martinez.

- I understand that, but what doesn't make sense is going after a title and winning in a higher weight class but not choosing to face the REAL OWNER of said title. Especially if it's at the weight that you were handed the belt.


-Why even mention Martinez like that fight is a serious possibility?
Team Pac is just entertaining the idea for the sake of Pac's image and so it doesn't appear that Pac is REALLY ducking Martinez.
I already know that fight is out of the question. Martinez is just TOO good for Pac and Roach knows it. BAD STYLE MATCH UP

And there's no point in fighting Marquez if it's not at 140 or under, because he's just ineffective at anything higher and **** roach knows it.

Pac WILL fight Mosley before he fights Berto!