Dan Rafael: "A seven-day cutoff is quite REASONABLE but Floyd still REFUSED to budge"

[Red_Menace]

Floyds goal wasnt trying to ensure that there was a fair fight. He proved that by not coming in at the agreed weight against Marquez that he could care less about fair.

you must not follow boxing to even think for a second that he was trying to ensure a fair fight.

One thing Floyd is known for and it isnt trying to ensure there is going to be a fair fight but rather ducking and cherry picking since moving up from 135.....

Like I said, I don't care about Floyd Mayweather. Pac had an option to get the fight by participating in drug testing that is not unreasonable. All he had to do was say ok. Then if Floyd didn't want to fight, he would have found another reason to walk away. Instead, Pac ducked the drug test. Why would he do that? Is there a single good reason? No. Sorry, but Pac was in the wrong on that one.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't know dude, this is pretty easy to understand. Unless someone invents a time machine, you can only agree to test going forward until the time of the fight. If you can be tested at any time, day or night from that day until the day of the fight, what would you call that, if not random?

Yeah, best case they would be tested all year for the remainder of their career. They couldn't even get Pac to agree to test up until his next fight.

You nor anyone else can even explain why he needs to agree to any extra tests other than, "because Floyd thinks hes on something".

Why would Floyd think that? Because a fighter in his absolute prime is knocking dudes out? The same thing hes done his entire career?

If anything, Floyd should have been most su****ious about Juan Manuel Marquez. Hes a fighter in his mid 30s who moved up to lightweight and knocked out 2 career lightweights who had never been stopped before.

Where did he get that type of power?


Bottom line, Floyd tried getting Manny to abide by the Floyd commission thinking Pacquaio would fold. As the saying goes in boxing, theres more to the fight than what goes on in the ring. Floyd tried to get that advantage, and it backfired on him. For a guy who supposedly fights for money, and stated claims about how Pacquiao was this one dimensional and ordinary fighter,

he sure did back out pretty quick as soon as Pac said, "lets get it on then".

[trainhard_187]

Whether Floyd is ducking or not is a different subject than why Pac ducked or is trying to put limits on a drug test. All these Pac fans are acting like Pac was asked to do something completely outrageous and unreasonable. It's a drug test, and top-tier athletes do them all the time. If you aren't guilty of cheating, then it's easy. If an athlete in any other pro sport ducked drug testing the way Pac did, their reputation would be destroyed. Boxing fans are too blinded by nationalism and idiocy to see the flaws in their idols.

But demands being made by Floyd who has no credibility or evidence of Pac juicing to begin with.. Why should Pac bend over backwards to Floyd when in all honesty Pac dont need Floyd...

When its all said and done Floyd will be remembered as the "The guy that should of fought ....... ".. Just remember that..

[trainhard_187]

You nor anyone else can even explain why he needs to agree to any extra tests other than, "because Floyd thinks hes on something".

Why would Floyd think that? Because a fighter in his absolute prime is knocking dudes out? The same thing hes done his entire career?

If anything, Floyd should have been most su****ious about Juan Manuel Marquez. Hes a fighter in his mid 30s who moved up to lightweight and knocked out 2 career lightweights who had never been stopped before.

Where did he get that type of power?


Bottom line, Floyd tried getting Manny to abide by the Floyd commission thinking Pacquaio would fold. As the saying goes in boxing, theres more to the fight than what goes on in the ring. Floyd tried to get that advantage, and it backfired on him. For a guy who supposedly fights for money, and stated claims about how Pacquiao was this one dimensional and ordinary fighter,

he sure did back out pretty quick as soon as Pac said, "lets get it on then".

The damn truth right here...!!!

[goldenglove2]

Like I said, I don't care about Floyd Mayweather. Pac had an option to get the fight by participating in drug testing that is not unreasonable. All he had to do was say ok. Then if Floyd didn't want to fight, he would have found another reason to walk away. Instead, Pac ducked the drug test. Why would he do that? Is there a single good reason? No. Sorry, but Pac was in the wrong on that one.

excuse me...Floyd isnt the nsac...Pac didnt duck the drug test, he just didnt say " how high? " When Mr Vaction said "Jump! "..Pac later agreed and Floyd wanted no parts....bluff called.............

um, Floyd never asked ANYONE ever in his career to take OST before that,, I think thats pretty good reason......

[Red_Menace]

Well, Pac didn't say, "let's get it on." He said, "I want 7 days."

Besides that, I don't give a **** about Floyd Mayweather. The reason I think Pac might be cheating is because he refused to participate in strict drug testing. It's as simple as that. There is no good reason to avoid it. It's safe and there are thousands of other people (athletes) that do it every year. Pac should have agreed to the testing if he's honest, professional and has nothing to hide. This is the era of cheating in sports. It happens in every major sport at the highest level. What Floyd asked for is considered the best testing program in the world. It is designed by the real experts, so I'm going to take their word and trust that it is the best testing program. What reason does Pac, or you, have to doubt that? Why shouldn't Pac do it, without a cutoff?

[goldenglove2]

You nor anyone else can even explain why he needs to agree to any extra tests other than, "because Floyd thinks hes on something".

Why would Floyd think that? Because a fighter in his absolute prime is knocking dudes out? The same thing hes done his entire career?

If anything, Floyd should have been most su****ious about Juan Manuel Marquez. Hes a fighter in his mid 30s who moved up to lightweight and knocked out 2 career lightweights who had never been stopped before.

Where did he get that type of power?


Bottom line, Floyd tried getting Manny to abide by the Floyd commission thinking Pacquaio would fold. As the saying goes in boxing, theres more to the fight than what goes on in the ring. Floyd tried to get that advantage, and it backfired on him. For a guy who supposedly fights for money, and stated claims about how Pacquiao was this one dimensional and ordinary fighter,

he sure did back out pretty quick as soon as Pac said, "lets get it on then".

This............................^^^^^^^^

[p4p-champ]

You nor anyone else can even explain why he needs to agree to any extra tests other than, "because Floyd thinks hes on something".

Why would Floyd think that? Because a fighter in his absolute prime is knocking dudes out? The same thing hes done his entire career?

If anything, Floyd should have been most su****ious about Juan Manuel Marquez. Hes a fighter in his mid 30s who moved up to lightweight and knocked out 2 career lightweights who had never been stopped before.

Where did he get that type of power?


Bottom line, Floyd tried getting Manny to abide by the Floyd commission thinking Pacquaio would fold. As the saying goes in boxing, theres more to the fight than what goes on in the ring. Floyd tried to get that advantage, and it backfired on him. For a guy who supposedly fights for money, and stated claims about how Pacquiao was this one dimensional and ordinary fighter,

he sure did back out pretty quick as soon as Pac said, "lets get it on then".

"lets get it on but no testing 30 days out.....no wait, no testing 24 days out....no wait, I want to fight! FULL RANDOM TESTING, I SWEAR!....no wait, make that 7 days out....i don't wanna fight."

[Red_Menace]

excuse me...Floyd isnt the nsac...Pac didnt duck the drug test, he just didnt say " how high? " When Mr Vaction said "Jump! "..Pac later agreed and Floyd wanted no parts....bluff called.............

um, Floyd never asked ANYONE ever in his career to take OST before that,, I think thats pretty good reason......

He ducked the drug test. Who cares about NSAC? As a fight fan, and a sports fan, don't you want to know these guys aren't cheating? Why not demand the best testing?

Again, who cares about Floyd, what he's done in the past or now? I don't.

[trainhard_187]

"lets get it on but no testing 30 days out.....no wait, no testing 24 days out....no wait, I want to fight! FULL RANDOM TESTING, I SWEAR!....no wait, make that 7 days out....i don't wanna fight."

Your boy Floyd is just not interested save your energy...