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Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
Please shut up.
RJJ is done, get over it. Thats why Hopkins is fighting the ring champ at LHW, while RJJ is fighting a bum who noones heard of.
Toney had to lose 44lbs in 8 weeks. Hopkins would of beaten that Toney.
Ruiz wasnt the heavyweight champ and has never been the heavweight champ. Lennox Lewis was the HW champ.
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostYou also think that Tyson is greater than Holmes, Holyfield, and Lewis right?
Is funny that you mention the 20 titles defenses for Hopkins but ignore Holmes 20 title defenses when making a case that he is only "good" but not ATG let alone not greater than Tyson.
Holmes lost to Norton and Witherspoon imo and almost got KOed by Shavers.
Hopkins took people to school and arguably hasnt lost a fight since RJJ 1.
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Originally posted by Mayweather_ View PostRoid rage?
RJJ is done, get over it. Thats why Hopkins is fighting the ring champ at LHW, while RJJ is fighting a bum who noones heard of.
Toney had to lose 44lbs in 8 weeks. Hopkins would of beaten that Toney.
Ruiz wasnt the heavyweight champ and has never been the heavweight champ. Lennox Lewis was the HW champ.
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It doesn't matter... because one fighter has fought on longer more successfully later in his career doesn't mean he's better over all.... If you wanna compare Roy vs Bernard later in there career... make sure you compare what they did for the first 15 years.
The fact you even bring up the rematch in 2010, CLEARLY shows you don't know wtf you are talking about.
Roy was coming off a 1st round tko loss by a bum going into the Hopkins fight and you expect Hopkins to get credit for it?
Hopkins biggest fans on this site dont give him credit for it.
Toney also knocked out a guy at that weight class just FOUR MONTHS before he fought Roy... enough with the excuses.
And if you wanna talk about excuses... Tarver had to lose 40 lbs to fight Bernard from filming the ROcky movie... it works both ways.
Say what you want about Ruiz... he was a solid HW champ.. and NOBODY has done it in 100 years... NOBODY.. so it doesnt make a damn difference what you say about it.
And.. if you wanna talk about bums... how many bums and blown up welterweights are included in Nards 20 title defenses?
I can break down Nards resume just as easy as you can break down Roys... JUST AS EASY.Last edited by THE REED; 09-17-2010, 12:48 PM.
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Originally posted by Truth View PostHopkins style is what allows him to fight into his mid forties at a high level. His style of counter punching selectivley, and clinching effectivley and fouling expectedly is exceptionally good.
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Originally posted by Mayweather_ View PostRoid rage?
RJJ is done, get over it. Thats why Hopkins is fighting the ring champ at LHW, while RJJ is fighting a bum who noones heard of.
Hopkins took people to school and arguably hasnt lost a fight since RJJ 1.
i ain't the biggest jones fan, but when you constantly fight bigger men, there is a good chance of getting ko'd...
hopkins at the end of his career is finally doing what people been looking for him to do a long time ago, which is fight equally sized or bigger men with equal talent...
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Originally posted by djtmal View PostIf B-Hop beats Pascal, then Dawson would that move him into the top 10 fighters or all time?
no because his losses to jones, taylor, and calzaghe far outweigh a win against pascal and dawson.
2.) If B-Hop faught until he was 50, beating top young talent, where would he rank all time then?
top 200 depends on who it is he's fighting...if he's beating up middleweights, it doesn't show up on the radar
You're obviously a ****ing troll, but I want to address these points. Boxing fans like to mention the losses way too much. As if, I couldn't pull out losses from pretty much every top 50 ATGs resume worse than close decision losses to Jones, Calzaghe, and Taylor.
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