VIDEO: Proof Pacquiao is a sucker for counterpunches and right hands!

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anyway, floyd can fight you flatfooted, or on his toes, make you miss from any distance and counter you------another thing that makes this fight to me such a mismatch is manny's speed---it's his downfall against floyd because he will have to rely on it much more than anything else---manny's timing sucks with his punches---he's not economical with his punches, he tries to be, but he gets the crowd too much into his head, like shane does, and he just starts to fight you and overwhelm you with his volume---i guarantee you all right now, if he does this with floyd, that volume will be turned down, almost off---his best chance at beating floyd is out-timing him and landing those little sneaky punches and going off that, and i just don't see him doing that, especially with floyd's guard, his stance, his movement with his upperbody------manny isn't a faster puncher than zab judah imo except for those sneaky little punches he throws in there----but zab is a much faster puncher, especially with his jab, and floyd neutralized zab very well---manny is a better conditioned fighter, which is why he needs to take the ost and prove like he believes that he's a natural athlete----

bottomline, floyd is too much for manny skillwise, and that's all it takes to beat manny---or anyfighter for that matter---a complete skillset-----floyd stops manny by round 8-----that's i have to say about it--that's all i've always said about it---

expect floyd to counter over manny's jab with his power jab like he did with zab in round 2, almost dropping zab with it, if you go back and watch that fight, pay attention to the beginning of round 2-----it's a lost art in boxing, floyd is truly a throwback fighter----he counters off of his block----it's a thing of beauty---just watch round 7 of his fight with shane where he rolled his shoulder to block that right hand and landed his right hand sneaky punch---i mean, he did this more at the lower weights, i think he's going to go back to his old tactics, and it's going to make him that much harder to beat---damn near impossible-----

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I will take your word about those numbers but ....

3 per round X 12 rounds = 36 punches sounds more when you tally them up.


I have said it many times. Manny/Roach have to come up with a great plan to beat Floyd. It will not be easy. Still, it will not be easy for Floyd, if Manny/Roach comes with a great plan. It works both ways.


Manny has to come in, throw combinations and step out. I don't mean 1-2 punches.... I mean, 3 or more punch combos. Floyd is NOT Marquez. When Manny would throw 1,2,3,4... punches Marquez would be willing to counter back. Marquez was willing to take those risks to the point of getting knocked down .... and he did on several occasions.

Floyd is a defensive fighter. He is not willing to take risks. Floyd will only counter if you throw 1-2 punches at a time. If he senses that you are coming in with more then he has an auto feature built in him that makes him automatically go into his defensive mode. Manny can and should exploit that. Especially when Manny has been able to bring up to WW his punching power. Could you imagine Marquez getting hit with Manny's WW power? I can visualize Ricky Hatton all over again!

Floyd and Marquez are not the same and some reasons have been explained above.

Plus, Manny has continued to improve since Marquez as has been shown with the fights after that.

i see your point with floyd going to defensive mode when a fighter throws more than 2 punches at him, but you never know with floyd, he can sneak in punches through those combos, he ahs done it before, that's how he's always in control coz he can just stand there and make you throw at him and not land or catch you and shock you that way when you think he will just stand there----

manny isn't hard to hit with any punch, especially jabs and lead right hands, and floyd lands those at will----when he throws him----he gets into this zone, and just lands and lands and lands---it's crazy----

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anyway, floyd can fight you flatfooted, or on his toes, make you miss from any distance and counter you------another thing that makes this fight to me such a mismatch is manny's speed---it's his downfall against floyd because he will have to rely on it much more than anything else---manny's timing sucks with his punches---he's not economical with his punches, he tries to be, but he gets the crowd too much into his head, like shane does, and he just starts to fight you and overwhelm you with his volume---i guarantee you all right now, if he does this with floyd, that volume will be turned down, almost off---his best chance at beating floyd is out-timing him and landing those little sneaky punches and going off that, and i just don't see him doing that, especially with floyd's guard, his stance, his movement with his upperbody------manny isn't a faster puncher than zab judah imo except for those sneaky little punches he throws in there----but zab is a much faster puncher, especially with his jab, and floyd neutralized zab very well---manny is a better conditioned fighter, which is why he needs to take the ost and prove like he believes that he's a natural athlete----

bottomline, floyd is too much for manny skillwise, and that's all it takes to beat manny---or anyfighter for that matter---a complete skillset-----floyd stops manny by round 8-----that's i have to say about it--that's all i've always said about it---

expect floyd to counter over manny's jab with his power jab like he did with zab in round 2, almost dropping zab with it, if you go back and watch that fight, pay attention to the beginning of round 2-----it's a lost art in boxing, floyd is truly a throwback fighter----he counters off of his block----it's a thing of beauty---just watch round 7 of his fight with shane where he rolled his shoulder to block that right hand and landed his right hand sneaky punch---i mean, he did this more at the lower weights, i think he's going to go back to his old tactics, and it's going to make him that much harder to beat---damn near impossible-----

You are contradicting yourself here. First you say that Manny's timing sucks then you say his only chance is to time his punches.

While Manny needs variety in his punches and can try to time Floyd, I really think throwing his volume punches is what will need to be done to carry him thru the fight. Floyd is not a risk taker, especially someone with power who throws combos. If Manny can stick to 3, 4 punch combos, he should be fine with Floyd as Floyd usually goes defense when the punches are higher than 1-2 from a respected power puncher.

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anyway, floyd can fight you flatfooted, or on his toes, make you miss from any distance and counter you------another thing that makes this fight to me such a mismatch is manny's speed---it's his downfall against floyd because he will have to rely on it much more than anything else---manny's timing sucks with his punches---he's not economical with his punches, he tries to be, but he gets the crowd too much into his head, like shane does, and he just starts to fight you and overwhelm you with his volume---i guarantee you all right now, if he does this with floyd, that volume will be turned down, almost off---his best chance at beating floyd is out-timing him and landing those little sneaky punches and going off that, and i just don't see him doing that, especially with floyd's guard, his stance, his movement with his upperbody------manny isn't a faster puncher than zab judah imo except for those sneaky little punches he throws in there----but zab is a much faster puncher, especially with his jab, and floyd neutralized zab very well---manny is a better conditioned fighter, which is why he needs to take the ost and prove like he believes that he's a natural athlete----

bottomline, floyd is too much for manny skillwise, and that's all it takes to beat manny---or anyfighter for that matter---a complete skillset-----floyd stops manny by round 8-----that's i have to say about it--that's all i've always said about it---

expect floyd to counter over manny's jab with his power jab like he did with zab in round 2, almost dropping zab with it, if you go back and watch that fight, pay attention to the beginning of round 2-----it's a lost art in boxing, floyd is truly a throwback fighter----he counters off of his block----it's a thing of beauty---just watch round 7 of his fight with shane where he rolled his shoulder to block that right hand and landed his right hand sneaky punch---i mean, he did this more at the lower weights, i think he's going to go back to his old tactics, and it's going to make him that much harder to beat---damn near impossible-----

great post man!!!!

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You are contradicting yourself here. First you say that Manny's timing sucks then you say his only chance is to time his punches.

While Manny needs variety in his punches and can try to time Floyd, I really think throwing his volume punches is what will need to be done to carry him thru the fight. Floyd is not a risk taker, especially someone with power who throws combos. If Manny can stick to 3, 4 punch combos, he should be fine with Floyd as Floyd usually goes defense when the punches are higher than 1-2 from a respected power puncher.

um first off Manny has no jab, he is shorter and has a shorter reach.......and Floyd can fight him at a distance which will nullify these 3.4 punch combos you speak of.

If Floyd is pumping the jab like he was doing to Mosley, please tell me how the smaller Pacquiao will get inside to even land these 3,4 punch combos?

all of you seem to think Mayweather is a sitting duck like the rest of Pacs opponents.....in the center of the ring, Mayweather is gonna totally own Pac......

Pac has no sense of defense man, he is meerly an offensive fighter

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i see your point with floyd going to defensive mode when a fighter throws more than 2 punches at him, but you never know with floyd, he can sneak in punches through those combos, he ahs done it before, that's how he's always in control coz he can just stand there and make you throw at him and not land or catch you and shock you that way when you think he will just stand there----

manny isn't hard to hit with any punch, especially jabs and lead right hands, and floyd lands those at will----when he throws him----he gets into this zone, and just lands and lands and lands---it's crazy----

That is why Manny should only be in that punch range/zone when he is ready to commit to his combinations. Anything else, he should stay away ...... I know it's easier said than done but that's why we all want them to fight!

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i totally agree, and why wasnt he faster than Marquez?

Floyd better go make that money and stop BSing that is easy money, that video is biased but it is still the truth, Pacquaio better go out fighting Mayweather for all the marbles.

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um first off Manny has no jab, he is shorter and has a shorter reach.......and Floyd can fight him at a distance which will nullify these 3.4 punch combos you speak of.

If Floyd is pumping the jab like he was doing to Mosley, please tell me how the smaller Pacquiao will get inside to even land these 3,4 punch combos?

all of you seem to think Mayweather is a sitting duck like the rest of Pacs opponents.....in the center of the ring, Mayweather is gonna totally own Pac......

Pac has no sense of defense man, he is meerly an offensive fighter

Pac does not need a great jab. He just needs to show it. Look at Mosley, as you said. When he "showed" his jab and followed it that's when he had Floyd in trouble. For most of the fight, Mosley kept it at that 1-2 punch count that Floyd loves and devours. Floyd likes playing that slow chess match. He does NOT take chances when the opponent commits to more than that.

Oscar has a good jab too but was less effective with it against Manny than he was against Floyd. Floyd does not use his jab like Oscar either.

Is it going to be easy? I never said that. ..... but Manny CAN do it as he has the skills and has been able to do that all night long. That is, he has much better stamina than someone like the ~39 year old Mosley that we saw that fought Floyd.

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If Manny Pacquiao was unable to prevent Juan Manuel Marquez from easily countering him when he walked in to punch and easily landed the RIGHT HAND over and over, how will Pacquiao be able to deal with Floyd Mayweathers counters and right hands? Mayweather is a much, much, much better defensive fighter than Marquez, hence the reason Marquez was only able to land 69 out of 583 punches which equals %12.

Juan Manuel Marquez vs "The New & Improved" Pacquiao in their 2nd fight was able to land 172 out of 511 punches which equals a connect percentage of 34%. Marquez was actually able to OUTLAND Pacquiao in BOTH fights they had. Also in both fights Pacquiao threw 100 more punches than Marquez but was unable to outland the flatfooted Marquez.

Will Mayweather have similar success vs Manny as Marquez did with the counterpunching and right hands?

This video also shows me , how pacquiaos chin got better , his punches got stronger. If u ask me , not in a normal way.

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This video also shows me , how pacquiaos chin got better , his punches got stronger. If u ask me , not in a normal way.

i totally agree...Marquez was slapping him around