VIDEO: Proof Pacquiao is a sucker for counterpunches and right hands!

[trainhard_187]

Floyd wont sign the contract so who really gives **** anymore

[The Comedian]

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*******s trying to come up with excuses for this ass whoopin

[GrandpaBernard]

so much ownage, damn

I know right. Marquez was whooping many's ass with 43 punches per round. That's only 3 more punches than what Mayweather averaged in his last two fights, 40. They say Marquez throws a lot of combos, but if you watch the second fight closely his best punches were potshots, counters, and two hit combos.

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[F l i c k e r]

I know right. Marquez was whooping many's ass with 43 punches per round. That's only 3 more punches than what Mayweather averaged in his last two fights, 40. They say Marquez throws a lot of combos, but if you watch the second fight closely his best punches were potshots, counters, and two hit combos.

Hey, that's everything Floyd is good at!

[Pacquiao'd]

I know right. Marquez was whooping many's ass with 43 punches per round. That's only 3 more punches than what Mayweather averaged in his last two fights, 40. They say Marquez throws a lot of combos, but if you watch the second fight closely his best punches were potshots, counters, and two hit combos.

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oh, i know. and they seem to think that pac has evolved since then when it comes to that style.

clottey show thats far from the truth, hitting pac at will and that dude is no couter puncher but any stretch of the imagination.

pac is in for the beating of his life if he give floyd the liongate and test up to the fight

[ADP02]

I know right. Marquez was whooping many's ass with 43 punches per round. That's only 3 more punches than what Mayweather averaged in his last two fights, 40. They say Marquez throws a lot of combos, but if you watch the second fight closely his best punches were potshots, counters, and two hit combos.

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I will take your word about those numbers but ....

3 per round X 12 rounds = 36 punches sounds more when you tally them up.


I have said it many times. Manny/Roach have to come up with a great plan to beat Floyd. It will not be easy. Still, it will not be easy for Floyd, if Manny/Roach comes with a great plan. It works both ways.


Manny has to come in, throw combinations and step out. I don't mean 1-2 punches.... I mean, 3 or more punch combos. Floyd is NOT Marquez. When Manny would throw 1,2,3,4... punches Marquez would be willing to counter back. Marquez was willing to take those risks to the point of getting knocked down .... and he did on several occasions.

Floyd is a defensive fighter. He is not willing to take risks. Floyd will only counter if you throw 1-2 punches at a time. If he senses that you are coming in with more then he has an auto feature built in him that makes him automatically go into his defensive mode. Manny can and should exploit that. Especially when Manny has been able to bring up to WW his punching power. Could you imagine Marquez getting hit with Manny's WW power? I can visualize Ricky Hatton all over again!

Floyd and Marquez are not the same and some reasons have been explained above.

Plus, Manny has continued to improve since Marquez as has been shown with the fights after that.

[rj_ct]

I've been saying this all along; Marquez laid the blueprint on how to beat Pacquiao, Mayweather would follow up (though I think Pac is more susceptible to counter left hooks than straight rights).

Pacquiao still brings his hands back to his chest, not his chin, and that's why Marquez had such success against him, and beat Pac twice IMO. I think most people would agree that Mayweather is a better counter-puncher than Marquez, has better vision, is smarter, faster, more well rounded, etc.

[Franco2012]

who won more rounds in both fights?

Pacquiao won both fights,you should stop making ****** excuses!

Taylor won like 10 rounds against Chavez and then Chavez put him in wheel chair so winning round doesnt mean ****!

[Franco2012]

Floyd wont sign the contract so who really gives **** anymore

Exactly

And I am shocked that mod didnt ban TS yet!

[pbftxrs316]

i'm not even going to go off that fight cash, you know why? because people on here will say, well, since manny moved up, he's gotten so much better, so fast, much more disciplined with his style, and uses his right hand much better, and that is true---he did improve, but we have to remember also, he hasn't fought a counterpuncher either, i wonder why? and don't say it's the counterpuncer's fault for wanting ost------coz that's a bs excuse----

cash, i'll go off of the cotto and clottey fight-----when cotto tagged manny with a hard jab and landed it flush---i said, manny's right hand is so overrated, especially defensively---has always been imo----even when he holds his right hand up to protect his face/chin, somehow, his opponents either time it and land right past it, when he moves it slightly, or sneks it right through his guard-----cotto isn't a counterpuncher, but has good boxing skills-----jmm is a counterpuncher who counters with combos----clottey isn't a counterpuncher like that, although, he can do it sometimes-----but the only fighter who can do all of this and more and keep his balance, leverage, and foot placement is floyd jr......period----look at how clottey landed on manny and josh wasn't even throwing punches--but once josh found his distance, something floyd knows from the gate, he landed those uppercuts on manny and landed through his guard, right past that infamous right hand-----and manny's face showed it---now, manny won every round of that fight, throwing over 1000 punches in the process, and landing less than 20% of his punches with a guy who mainly played defense-----a guy like floyd who moves around the ring so well, slips punches and lands counters when you least expect it----jmm looked sloppy a lot of the times he landed his counters----it's like his footing was horribly placed---you rarely ever see floyd's feet look sloppily placed---yes, he's tripped a couple of times when he lost his balance from fighters stepping on his foot ala zab and hatton, but he never went down on his ass---that's great balance----

what manny does have for himself is sneaking in those little quick punches like he did with cotto thus knocking cotto off balance and down------those punches are his best weapons coz they are hard punches because he's so close to his opponent---and they are fast punches---he would damn sure have to rely on them fighting floyd---he would have to offset floyd's balance by throwing so many punces from awkward angles at him like chop did, which is why chop caught floyd with looping punches out of floyd's visual range---can manny do this---sure, will he? i don't see this happening----floyd hasn't fought a southpaw since 2006 with judah----he has sparred with them though----it's a smart tactic by floyd---he usually spars with middleweights and super middleweights, but when he spars with lefties, he spars will smaller lefties, because of the speed of southpaws----i'm a southpaw, i know how fast we can be--lol---

anywho, people on here go off what freddie roach says about floyd regarding his foot movement being gone----of course he would say that going off of one fight---when floyd purposely stayed flat footed against shane to walk his ass down---and it did cost him in the 2nd round i feel---because floyd could have easily broken shane down by moving around more and tiring him out that way and then in tme mid to late rounds stopped him easily---but when shane caught him with a very well timed right hand and then a very well timed right hook over floyd's left hook(and i still say shane had his eyes closed throwing that punch, but that's just me), freddie must've thought, well, damn, manny lands that, floyd's done----when in hindsight, manny isn't stronger than floyd, and manny is a southpaw---how would he land that same shot when his stance would be turned the other way-----risky move by manny----

so people on here say, coz freddie is a world renowned trainer, he knows more about the sport than people on here, everybody on here, and that's bull****----freddie is a great trainer, no doubt, but his fighters haven't won all of their fights have they? he makes a lot of mistakes with his judgements----

freddie said floyd lost his foot movement right against shane----but, floyd can move his feet fast while standing flat footed, which is another tough obstacle for manny to overcome, because jmm did that also, but his balance was terrible--i don't know how he didn't fall---maybe, that's how he threw manny off---anyway, floyd stood on his back toe a lot against jmm and moved beautiful around the ring, and jmm landed a measly 12% of his shots against a bigger guy who didn't use his size that much in the fight---

floyd's counter right hand followed by him ducking under jmm's returing right hook all in the same motion just goes to show you how more skilled he really is than manny---you can beat manny being flatfooted---you just have to have great timing---floyd has tremendous timing with his punches---manny has a great left hand, and he would have to lead with it against floyd, but floyd has longer arms, so how risky is that---manny is fast, no doubt, but he tries to outvolume you with punches and that's how he gets to land his combos, but floyd lands through combos and that's how he got oscar to stop throwing his jab, because he landed through his combos and oscar must have thought, well, damn, i know i landed the jab on him some, but if he can land through these ****s and catch me off guard, that jab is going to get timed eventually, so **** that---