VIDEO: Proof Pacquiao is a sucker for counterpunches and right hands!

[GrandpaBernard]

I will take your word about those numbers but ....

3 per round X 12 rounds = 36 punches sounds more when you tally them up.


I have said it many times. Manny/Roach have to come up with a great plan to beat Floyd. It will not be easy. Still, it will not be easy for Floyd, if Manny/Roach comes with a great plan. It works both ways.


Manny has to come in, throw combinations and step out. I don't mean 1-2 punches.... I mean, 3 or more punch combos. Floyd is NOT Marquez. When Manny would throw 1,2,3,4... punches Marquez would be willing to counter back. Marquez was willing to take those risks to the point of getting knocked down .... and he did on several occasions.

Floyd is a defensive fighter. He is not willing to take risks. Floyd will only counter if you throw 1-2 punches at a time. If he senses that you are coming in with more then he has an auto feature built in him that makes him automatically go into his defensive mode. Manny can and should exploit that. Especially when Manny has been able to bring up to WW his punching power. Could you imagine Marquez getting hit with Manny's WW power? I can visualize Ricky Hatton all over again!

Floyd and Marquez are not the same and some reasons have been explained above.

Plus, Manny has continued to improve since Marquez as has been shown with the fights after that.

If Marquez was able to counter manny then Floyd will be able to beat him to the punch to stop those 4-5 hit combos. Floyd has faster handspeed than manny and more importantly the best timing in boxing.

Fight won't be competitive in my opinion. Floyd stops him late.

[adrian62]

We need to see a 3rd fight! I wonder if Manny ever watches this Youtube Video?


For all you Pac fans, yes manny did win 1 of 2. but we all know who won the most rounds. a 3rd fight is needed and we all know this is something Bob Arum, Manny Pacquiao, Freddie Roach and all the *******s out there dont want.

[pbftxrs316]

You are contradicting yourself here. First you say that Manny's timing sucks then you say his only chance is to time his punches.

While Manny needs variety in his punches and can try to time Floyd, I really think throwing his volume punches is what will need to be done to carry him thru the fight. Floyd is not a risk taker, especially someone with power who throws combos. If Manny can stick to 3, 4 punch combos, he should be fine with Floyd as Floyd usually goes defense when the punches are higher than 1-2 from a respected power puncher.

no i wasn't----i said manny has to out-time floyd---and said how he needs to do it---i didn't say he would do it or is capable of doing it---just because he sneaks in those shots, doesn't mean his timing is impecable---don't twist my words man-----manny has terrible timing with his punches, which is why his compubox % is for the most part, always low-----he tries to make his punches economical like i put before, but he tends to go wild and get reckless which is why you see his head snap back a lot even when he's punching---ask clottey---many threw over 1000 punches and landed less than 20% of his shots---meaning 200 or less----that's terrible---

floyd's always around, near, or at 50% of his total shots and he makes them count, which is why they are more effective than a guy who just throws----his timing is his best weapon---there was no contradicition in my post, i'm sorry you saw that way, but you misinterpreted it----that's for sure----manny can sneak in those punches against guys who leave their chins up and who's stances are bad----not a guy who rolls his shoulder only to block the punch and land something of his own------manny has to improve his timing with his speed, and he had to do that a long time ago---it's too late imo---but we'll see----

[Manboyeatme]

OH MAN only if you could tell and show mayweather this video.. He would sign right away huh.

[pbftxrs316]

Pac does not need a great jab. He just needs to show it. Look at Mosley, as you said. When he "showed" his jab and followed it that's when he had Floyd in trouble. For most of the fight, Mosley kept it at that 1-2 punch count that Floyd loves and devours. Floyd likes playing that slow chess match. He does NOT take chances when the opponent commits to more than that.

Oscar has a good jab too but was less effective with it against Manny than he was against Floyd. Floyd does not use his jab like Oscar either.

Is it going to be easy? I never said that. ..... but Manny CAN do it as he has the skills and has been able to do that all night long. That is, he has much better stamina than someone like the ~39 year old Mosley that we saw that fought Floyd.

what shane did was time floyd with that punch---that's how he caught him---you're right, he threw a jab to throw floyd off, which it did some, but shane threw it at floyd's midsection and flung that right hand right to his jaw coz floyd's left hand was low-----and that was it---shane timed the 2nd right hand perfectly and it caught floyd in the temple area----and buckled his legs---that was all timing, not power or speed--floyd was off balance throwing that left hook and making himself vulnerable---but that's what you have to do with floyd, it's very hard to do---these guys are not guys who time their punches that well---they just overwhelm you with punches and power and speed and stamina----but floyd is a fighter with great timing, which is why he dominates his fights the way he does because he has so much in his arsenal---he can move, standstill, fight off of the ropes, control your pace while in defense---he's a thinking fighter which is why i see no fighter beating him from 154 on down, and this isn't the 1st time i've noted this-----for about 7 years i've thought this---this kid is damn near impossible to beat----he recovered fast from those punches shane landed----chop chop landed---zab landed, and he dominated the fight---he never went down, he tied up, he knew what to do instantly, and this says a lot for a guy who isn't known for taking punishment----he knew exactly what to do----

floyd spars with middleweights and super middleweights---hell, even crusierweights sometimes-----he has been known to spar 10-15 mintue rounds with different sparring partners moving in----4 1/2 minute rounds regularly with no breaks for several rounds and usual a 30 second break eventually---he's a machine---and he's down to prove he's a natual athlete by taking ost's---so know ones questions him-------manny will not, can not, will never be able to beat floyd, let alone handle him----floyd is too well schooled---it comes easy to him, because he's so naturally pure with it---it's what he knows best----i'm telling you all now---manny is hit----don't say i didn't warn you so many times---because i did, and i'm going to continue---so read carefully and listen to me while there's still time----

[ADP02]

no i wasn't----i said manny has to out-time floyd---and said how he needs to do it---i didn't say he would do it or is capable of doing it---just because he sneaks in those shots, doesn't mean his timing is impecable---don't twist my words man-----manny has terrible timing with his punches, which is why his compubox % is for the most part, always low-----he tries to make his punches economical like i put before, but he tends to go wild and get reckless which is why you see his head snap back a lot even when he's punching---ask clottey---many threw over 1000 punches and landed less than 20% of his shots---meaning 200 or less----that's terrible---

floyd's always around, near, or at 50% of his total shots and he makes them count, which is why they are more effective than a guy who just throws----his timing is his best weapon---there was no contradicition in my post, i'm sorry you saw that way, but you misinterpreted it----that's for sure----manny can sneak in those punches against guys who leave their chins up and who's stances are bad----not a guy who rolls his shoulder only to block the punch and land something of his own------manny has to improve his timing with his speed, and he had to do that a long time ago---it's too late imo---but we'll see----

Ok, no problem

You can't count Clottey for shots landed as Clottey had his arms up all night.

Floyd will need to limit his roll shoulder defense as Manny is a southpaw and southpaws tend to be able to hit that kind of defense. So that would be another plus for Manny.

[ADP02]

If Marquez was able to counter manny then Floyd will be able to beat him to the punch to stop those 4-5 hit combos. Floyd has faster handspeed than manny and more importantly the best timing in boxing.

Fight won't be competitive in my opinion. Floyd stops him late.

Floyd being the bigger WW in the ring, will have all the advantages that come with it. This may cause Manny problems.

but back to my point .... either you don't get my point or you haven't noticed what Floyd does when the opponent, who has respectable power, throws 3, 4 ... punch combos. Floyd, more often than not, goes into his defensive mode. Occasionally, he will try to throw some weak shot in between to throw off the opponent but never with authority.

[Cash Cow]

**** you war pac!!!!!!!!

sure buddy

[Carpe Diem]

Here we go...

[mushahadeen]

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