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    #41
    Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
    He had the media with his testing demands. For a second there I thought he really had the media and the causal fans tricked about Manny. Making it look like he was on roids or afraid to fight. Now it's backwards. May has his back against the wall. A lot of his legacy might ride on the next 24 hours.
    People have seen this coming. Making evil accusations without proof is no laughing matter to many. To make matters worse they demand full OST to a man with no history of PED use. Man, this is not only evil, this is something that needs justice. It could happen to anybody.

    No, I'm not surprised why the media is turning on Floyd. I've been saying that during the first negos.

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      #42
      Originally posted by willybullet View Post
      Arum himself said that going to the media killed negotiations the first time around. So what does Arum do now? He goes to the media.

      Arum's been pushing a Cotto/Marg fight at 154 lately and his agenda is obvious; get Manny a title at 154 to gain the upper hand in negotiations for any Pac fight afterward.
      what does negotiation mean to you? Negotiation is done and agreed on both side. What do you want arum to do? stay quiet?

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        #43
        *****s : Manny should just agree to Random Testing

        Media : He agreed up to the night of the bout

        *****s : Really? Its Arum its a lie. Let me see the blue print, I want to hear it from Manny himself...



        Media : Roach said he dont like Shane for Pac a few years ago


        *****s : See that?!! see that??!! Manny is ducking Shane Mosley. Anybody who doesnt woship floyd doesnt know anything about boxing....


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        *****s has no logic

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          #44
          Originally posted by 007geyweather View Post
          what does negotiation mean to you? Negotiation is done and agreed on both side. What do you want arum to do? stay quiet?
          Both sides agreed to a gag order. Only Arum has violated it. This shows Arum is not truly interested in negotiating a Pac/May fight. What he really wants is to get Manny a title at 154 first
          Last edited by Doc Holliday; 07-15-2010, 08:28 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
            He had the media with his testing demands. For a second there I thought he really had the media and the causal fans tricked about Manny. Making it look like he was on roids or afraid to fight. Now it's backwards. May has his back against the wall. A lot of his legacy might ride on the next 24 hours.
            and how did you get to that? nobody has said manny agreed to random ost---------as a matter of fact nobody has said what fannypac has agreed to at all-----NOBODY. SO I'LL ASK AGAIN, how did you get to that assumption?

            there has been nothing but a bunch of uninformative and contradictive media commentary in the last few weeks or whatever.

            its not roids exactly, but peds. reminds of those people that still call mma, ufc.

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              #46
              So what happened now?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Castor_Troy View Post
                *****s : Manny should just agree to Random Testing

                Media : He agreed up to the night of the bout
                media lies. pacyow never ever evah agreed to random testing. he agreed to 14 days. ok now take a seat and put on ur thinking cap..........when there is a number followed by a day that testing gets stopped regarding days of testing.............that means ITS NOT RANDOM.

                you people need to learn basic listening skills. i understand being a fan and how popular pacyow is but ya gotta retain what you hear and not make up lie's for crying out loud.

                its like ya'll got infected with the hellen keller virus. what gives?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                  No, he didn't. It's dumb to think that someone would attempt to tarnish another man's legacy. Pacquiao did all that to himself, and in my opinion he deserves the backlash.

                  What needed to happen was

                  1. Pacquiao accepts to take the full.
                  2. His team shuts the fuck up about it.

                  Neither happened. And again, how do you know whats on the contract?
                  Why did he do it then? Why did he go through something like 40 fights without demanding for steroid testing then all of a sudden demand so? That makes no sense. Especially when Manny had no failed tests in the past.

                  I don't know specifically what's on the contract. But I'll know in a day.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Bennett View Post
                    and how did you get to that? nobody has said manny agreed to random ost---------as a matter of fact nobody has said what fannypac has agreed to at all-----NOBODY. SO I'LL ASK AGAIN, how did you get to that assumption?

                    there has been nothing but a bunch of uninformative and contradictive media commentary in the last few weeks or whatever.

                    its not roids exactly, but peds. reminds of those people that still call mma, ufc.
                    He agreed to the test cut off days if not weeks go. That's not an assumption, that's fact.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by willybullet View Post
                      Both sides agreed to a gag order. Only Arum has violated it. This shows Arum is not truly interested in negotiating a Pac/May fight. What he really wants is to get Manny a title at 154 first
                      Are you nuts? How many months more are you need about this gag order? Pac's promoter Arum said they waiting for Floyd to sign the contract. So it means this contract already been agreed by Floyd's promoter the GBP otherwise if you are Floyd's promoter, you think you will just keep quit Top Rank bashing your fighter when there is no really an agreement or problem with the contract? GBP been quite about it maybe they also waiting for Floyd to sign it. You will not hear them saying my fighter scared of Pac that is why he doesn't want to sign the contract, will you?

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