Mayweather's 'Random Blood Tests' Fallacy; Finally Exposed?

[Akinapepemo]

Hmm, for a thread with a video short of baiting Floyd fans, this thread is actually civil. i hope it stays that way.

[AFighter4U]

Please be careful about brining up old fighters. respectfully, they employed catchweights because there was fewer divisions and more space between them. If henry Armstrong moves from 160 to 175 and the fight is at 170 that is SIGNIFICANTLY different than Manny moving from 140 to 147 and fighting at 145. C'mon man be fair.

Well, technically you could say Manny actually moved from 135 to 145 since he's only fought ONCE at 147 and 140 respectively. Nonetheless, like i said, the catchweight may be an issue to you, but not to me. And i'll respect your stance in that regard.

[The Big Dunn]

Nothing new here burner, move along now...



True, whoever is the draw does get to dictate, just like DLH did in his time, or SRL. Ok, i concede that it was an issue, but it wasn't such a big deal to bea dealbreaker to Cotto, it just meant that he had to start training earlier. Besides, looking at Cotto's composition, he looks like he could shed a pound without getting squeezed dry unlike DLH or EM.

I think cotto fought as best he could. Do I think he beats manny at 147? I don't think so. But I don' think he gets as tired at 147. Losing 2 lbs for us is no big deal. For a fighter that is already 15-20 lbs below his walking around weight is.

And, this board could be civil as long as the extremes (aka *****s and *******s) tone it down.

[The Big Dunn]

I think cotto fought as best he could. Do I think he beats manny at 147? I don't think so. But I don' think he gets as tired at 147. Losing 2 lbs for us is no big deal. For a fighter that is already 15-20 lbs below his walking around weight is.

And, this board could be civil as long as the extremes (aka *****s and *******s) tone it down.

Only in the championship fights.

[Vadrigar.]

Hmm, for a thread with a video short of baiting Floyd fans, this thread is actually civil. i hope it stays that way.

lol didn't notice that at all. But it's because *****s haven't entered yet.

[brick wall]

ahhh pac-cotto catchweight fight again lol. some people are fond or pointing out "facts" in their arguments but they failed to realize that the more important thing is how you interpret facts. pac fought cotto at 145 therefore pac is a *****...duh? that argument is as ****** as it gets. as a pacfan, when i learned that pac will fight cotto at 145 i had big doubts that pac can beat cotto even putting into consideration that cotto will be a little weight drained. i know a lot of people shared the same thoughts and expectations before the fight and some of them are even haters. if i ever gave pac a chance to win, it should only be close. not in my wildest dream that pac will dominate or ko cotto. then the fight came and lo and behold, pac did just that. pac fans and nuetral fans thought it was a great win for pac...haters reneged on their previous predictions/opinions and tried to downplay pac's win. so what's the use of pointing out facts if you can't even hold on to your opinions before and after the fact happened.

[The Big Dunn]

ahhh pac-cotto catchweight fight again lol. some people are fond or pointing out "facts" in their arguments but they failed to realize that the more important thing is how you interpret facts. pac fought cotto at 145 therefore pac is a *****...duh? that argument is as ****** as it gets. as a pacfan, when i learned that pac will fight cotto at 145 i had big doubts that pac can beat cotto even putting into consideration that cotto will be a little weight drained. i know a lot of people shared the same thoughts and expectations before the fight and some of them are even haters. if i ever gave pac a chance to win, it should only be close. not in my wildest dream that pac will dominate or ko cotto. then the fight came and lo and behold, pac did just that. pac fans and nuetral fans thought it was a great win for pac...haters reneged on their previous predictions/opinions and tried to downplay pac's win. so what's the use of pointing out facts if you can't even hold on to your opinions before and after the fact happened.

No pac isn't a *****. Using your leverage when you are moving up in weight to make the champ fight a s weight less than the maximum weight is pu$$y. Its a b!tch move IMO.

[brick wall]

No pac isn't a *****. Using your leverage when you are moving up in weight to make the champ fight a s weight less than the maximum weight is pu$$y. Its a b!tch move IMO.

you know what? personally i don't agree with catchweights. jcc sr did it before, srl too, oscar, jmm (unfortunately floyd did not honor the agreement), etc. you call that ***** move? doesn't really matter to me if that's your opinion. what's irritating is if you try to single out pac just because of your great admiration for floyd. very much like the the ost...when floyd singled out pac all of a sudden floyd fans are up in arms declaring how pac is su****ious and all. nobody questioned floyd's motives and his methods.

[The Big Dunn]

you know what? personally i don't agree with catchweights. jcc sr did it before, srl too, oscar, jmm (unfortunately floyd did not honor the agreement), etc. you call that ***** move? doesn't really matter to me if that's your opinion. what's irritating is if you try to single out pac just because of your great admiration for floyd. very much like the the ost...when floyd singled out pac all of a sudden floyd fans are up in arms declaring how pac is su****ious and all. nobody questioned floyd's motives and his methods.

Brick stop that crap! I've posted several times if floyd makes martinez come down to 155its a b!tch move on floyds part. No one is singling manny out. Stop that bull****. If its a non title fight I don't care.

And, say what you want, floyd fought castillo, corrales,gatti, Zab, Baldo, and ODH at the max weights when moving up and trying to win their titles. Manny didn't do that. You can't question or criticize floyd for that.

And, as far as the OST crap. You know where I stand.

[The Big Dunn]

you know what? personally i don't agree with catchweights. jcc sr did it before, srl too, oscar, jmm (unfortunately floyd did not honor the agreement), etc. you call that ***** move? doesn't really matter to me if that's your opinion. what's irritating is if you try to single out pac just because of your great admiration for floyd. very much like the the ost...when floyd singled out pac all of a sudden floyd fans are up in arms declaring how pac is su****ious and all. nobody questioned floyd's motives and his methods.

I think its fair, when manny fans point out the 7 div titles that they point out the last was 145. Obviously, as a floyd fan most posters will jsut say i feel that way because I hate manny. I respect the win but not very much because it wasn't at the max weight.