It effected him of course. The weight loss is a factor and also his china chin.
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Lack of ballz and a chin is what happened! He didnt gain that much weight to goto heavy as he was weighted down in that weigh-in! He just got schooled plain and simpleComment
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Originally posted by Eyeh8you
His china chin was finally exposed.Comment
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Wow...talk about a hater.ack of ballz and a chin is what happened! He didnt gain that much weight to goto heavy as he was weighted down in that weigh-in! He just got schooled plain and simple
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I believe Antonio Tarver's left cross effected him.Comment
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yea he should have never done that... he should be fighting vitali right now... har har...Comment
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Definitely. However, I also think without having lost the weight and without having been 35, Roy never would have had to deal with that, but, they ALL fall sometime.I believe Antonio Tarver's left cross effected him.
All of the greatest boxers eventually fell...Ali, and Robinson was never the same when he came back down from light-heavyweight to fight at middleweight again.Comment
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I was watching Jones-Griffin I, and Jones does have trouble with counter punchers. Being that Tarver is a bigger puncher and better defender than Griffin, I think in Jones' prime Tarver would've beaten him. Tarver just seems to have his number. You can't pitch Class C Ball in Albuquerque, and then go and start in the World Series.Originally posted by Super_LightweightComment
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I don't neccesarily think Tarver defends better than Griffin in his prime, and it wasn't only Griffin's style or being a counter-puncher that gave Jones problems. Griffin's extremely awkward movment also made him difficult.I think in Jones' prime Tarver would've beaten him. Tarver just seems to have his number. You can't pitch Class C Ball in Albuquerque, and then go and start in the World Series.
Toney was a counter-puncher and Jones dominated him. Griffin got Ko'd in the rematch with ferocity and was near it in the first match.
Tarver would NOT beat Roy in his prime as easily as he seemed to recently. Roy beat Tarver after the Ruiz fight while looking just plain exhausted (although very close fight), and Jones won the first round vs Tarver in the rematch being the aggressor and simply got caught due to his advanced age, the significant punishment he took in the first Tarver fight, and the damage done by coming back down in weight made him less able to defend himself.
Tarver's being a southpaw had an effect, but that effect was played out. Jones has dominated plenty of southpaws. If Tarver was anything special Johnson would not have KO'd Jones later on.
Prime Roy Jones uses a lot more foot movement than that of late, plain and simple. Tarver is not the "world-series" when it comes to boxers either. That's why he got beat (although a good close fight) to a 34-35 yr old Glen Johnson. You do not drop a decision to a guy like Johnson if you are the "world-series" of boxing.
And just for anyone who thinks that the weight-loss is just a lousy excuse, refer not only to performance but to the following photos and it's obvious that Roy did something unwise in coming down in weight, something that Tarver was able to take advantage of.
Jones after defeating Ruiz.
Jones at the weigh-in for Tarver.
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like i've mentioned too before you can't discount the steroid issue either cos if he was geared up still 'like the good ole days' then he would of been alot stronger coming down to 175, but the weight loss surely must of counted against him too, the difference is those two pics is quite revealingComment
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