In the first tarver fight yes...you lose 30pnds of pure muscle and see how you feel. In the second fight...no...he was caught by a great punch that's all. Against johnson, his heart wasn't in it, that's all. His punch output was non-existent. That's not to say johnson didn't fight a great fight...he did and I hope he beats tarver.
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Roy just needs to get up and train. Yes 30 pounds of muscle will do you in, yes he needs to rest, but non of that will help him win if he doesnt train like he used to.Comment
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Its his china chin guys!
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hmm
People want to say it was one thing but that's silly. Roy's downfall is due to several factors.
1) The loss of a significant amount of muscle mass, 10-18 lbs, had more than a temporary effect on him.
2) Age. At 35, Roy shouldn't be expected to be as great as he once was. Some people claim they noticed his speed dropping, mainly his footspeed, since the Clinton Woods fight.
3) Desire. Roy's desire was probably not as intense as it was in such fights as Griffin II and Ruiz.
Of these factors I would point to age as the most significant one. Roy doesn't have a glass chin by any means, whoever said that. He took some good shots from Ruiz and From Tarver in their first fight. However, the devastating one-punch KO of Jones in the rematch made him more susceptible to being KO'd. It is well documented that once you get KO'd and suffer some sort of brain trauma, you only get worse and worse and taking punches from that point on.Comment
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He should retire, he has no legs and a shattered chin.Comment
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No because he only loss 20 pounds or less he didn't fight Ruiz at the normal heavyweight limit of 200 only at 195 so he only had to lose 20 pounds and in my opinion he lost to Tarver twice the first time he didn't take the belt from him he was given a gift. You could see his legs slipping from him duing the Gonzalez and he never had tremedous power at light heavy.Comment
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I don't believe it i now it's the or one of the reason's he looked like that when he got down in weight again. he just looked different his skin color his face looked old, he just didn't look healthy compare his skincolor in the ruiz fight with the jones in the 1 and 2 tarver fights, it's a big difference.Originally posted by acquittedComment
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When I watched the Johnson fight, my first thought, Jones was on drugs, he looked, very unhealthy.Comment
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After reading this very interesting and very good thread i have come to these conclusions:
1. Roy Jones SHOULD have stayed at heavyweight. He would not have had to lose all the weight and it is a fact that older fighters last longer in higher weight divisions.
2. Roy Jones should NEVER fight again. His knock out loses to Traver and Johnson were very bad KO loses and he risks brain damage if hit again!
3. Roy Jones IS a great fighter. His last two fights should not reflect a wonderful career. i think in time appreciation will grow for his skills and he might make the top 40 greatest fighters of all time...Comment
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it certainly affected him, but it's no excuseOriginally posted by acquittedComment
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