If Manny fights Cotto or Margarito next, all chances of a Mayweather bout will die. The PPV #s will kill all power he may have had at the negotiating table.
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Originally posted by sapo#1 View PostManny Pac is going to fight cotto for the 154lbs title but at 150lbs!!!!
Just like manny pac won the 147lbs title at 145lbs!!!!!
will someone explain this to me!!!!!!!!!!!
who has manny pac beat???
manny padded paquaio!!! he should get the padded award!!!!
Erik morales lost a trilogy then erik morales lost a "tune up fight" then lost to manny pac!!! Erik was already losing!!!
Oscar De La Hoya 36yr old part time fighter since 2002 weight drained and lost 3 of his last 6 fights!!!
Ricky fatton Hatton drunken fighter and was K.O. by mayweather and mayweather is not even a power puncher!!!
Miguel Cotto looked weak in his last 2 fights!!! and was drained to 144 lbs!! why not fight cotto at his best 147lbs??
manny pac targets weak fighters or fighters he can drain!!!
he has not beat a prime fighter manny pac is a protected PADDED fighter!!!
MANNY PADDED PACQUAIO!!!!
prove me wrong or stop me when i lie!!!
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i dont want to see pac-cotto II. its ******. people are acting as if cotto changed a whole lot against foreman. when ur up against a feather fisted guy of course you can pound it in and not be afraid of his best shots (though he did get rocked), but pac (has power in both hands) would be the aggressor against cotto the way it played out in the first fight...pac would TKO cotto again at 154. people just dont want to admit it and its the usual people as always. i actually would like to see cotto and berto fight. people dont understand how active this fight could be.
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Originally posted by reneg_2 View Posti dont want to see pac-cotto II. its ******. people are acting as if cotto changed a whole lot against foreman. when ur up against a feather fisted guy of course you can pound it in and not be afraid of his best shots (though he did get rocked), but pac (has power in both hands) would be the aggressor against cotto the way it played out in the first fight...pac would TKO cotto again at 154. people just dont want to admit it and its the usual people as always. i actually would like to see cotto and berto fight. people dont understand how active this fight could be.
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I totally agree with you. If this fight takes place it should be at 154. Bob Arum is the snake that drained his own fighter to 144lbs Vs pacman. THey both fight for Top Rank. Talk about selling out your own fighter. I think the WBA should step in and protect the Accreditation of there championship belt "154lbs."
Originally posted by sapo#1 View PostManny Pac is going to fight cotto for the 154lbs title but at 150lbs!!!!
Just like manny pac won the 147lbs title at 145lbs!!!!!
will someone explain this to me!!!!!!!!!!!
who has manny pac beat???
manny padded paquaio!!! he should get the padded award!!!!
Erik morales lost a trilogy then erik morales lost a "tune up fight" then lost to manny pac!!! Erik was already losing!!!
Oscar De La Hoya 36yr old part time fighter since 2002 weight drained and lost 3 of his last 6 fights!!!
Ricky fatton Hatton drunken fighter and was K.O. by mayweather and mayweather is not even a power puncher!!!
Miguel Cotto looked weak in his last 2 fights!!! and was drained to 144 lbs!! why not fight cotto at his best 147lbs??
manny pac targets weak fighters or fighters he can drain!!!
he has not beat a prime fighter manny pac is a protected PADDED fighter!!!
MANNY PADDED PACQUAIO!!!!
prove me wrong or stop me when i lie!!!
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Originally posted by trainhard_187 View PostWho said Cotto was fighting Pac at 150..? I didnt read that in an article.
Bottom line is your a hater so its pointless to try to even argue with you.. YOUR TOO CLOSED MINDED..
I'm gonna call it a ***** Bot, where materials are purely made of hate, jealousy and ******ity.
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People continuously say that Mayweather only fights smaller and/or older fighters. Contrarily to this very popular belief that in fact 2 of his last 4 opponents have been bigger(Mosley, DLH) and although 3 of his last 4 have been older they had destroyed an opponent or just looked good in their previous fight (IMO). Unlike Pac’s previous opponents.
Pac's last 5 out of 6 opponents have been older and half of them looked like crap (Hoya, Clottey) or was "destroyed" (Cotto, Hatton) in their previous fight... Let’s also not forget that team Pac likes to have the "advantage" (wait isn't this what Mayweather gets bashed for?) and drain there opponents. DLH was a zombie, Cotto was made to drop weight for his very own WW belt and if they would have fought Mosley, they wanted him to be "at least at 142-143" per Freddie Roach explained (yet now they want to fight at 154 for a belt?). Then again Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach stated that Mosley was "too good" and he also stated that "Pac wasn’t ready for a fighter like Mayweather". Shocker? Not really. So who’s ducking who? Who didn’t agree to the 14 day cut off then but now all of a sudden does when 14 days is not an option. Who's really afraid of losing?
So lets talk size. Why would Floyd "duck" a smaller fighter? According to Maywweather's haters, smaller fighters are his specialty. IMO Pacs too small in every aspect to beat Mayweather. He lacks the technical skills just as he did when he fought JMM (twice) and we know exactly how Mayweather can handle a much smaller technical fighter. What makes people think Pac will beat Mayweather so soundly when nobody has really come close. Especially someone of Pacs "little" size. Jose Luis Castillo doesn't count eitgher. He started out around 125 in the early 90's and hit 140's in 2001. He was a natural LW and he fought most of his career at LW. Which is the weight he fought and lost to Mayweather in (twice). If Floyd was afraid of losing he wouldn't have fought him the second time.
“Floyd Mayweather Jr is a sharpshooter and Manny Pac would eventually get shot down” - Larry Merchant
“You gonna have to punch with’em instead of keep waiting for a spot. You inside looking for a perfect shot. THERE IS NONE” - Richardson
"Pac isn't ready for a fighter like Mayweather" - Roach
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"The ball is now in Pac’s court" - Brian Kinney
The fight will get made and Pac will "give in" just like he flip flopped on the cut off dates. Excuses will not be tolerated from his camp.
Size will matter, skills will matter. Listen to Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach, he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't like the Mayweather fight one bit. Lets remember who trained Hoya when Mayweather beat him. Lets also remember who trained James Toney (twice) when he tested positive for steroids.
Team Pac has been shook from day one. This is just another day for Mayweather to talk his (money making) trash. Nothing is different. If people want to see Mayweather possibly beat you would be calling for a much bigger fighter in Sergio Martinez or P.WILL! Little Pac is not the man to do it.
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Everybody here is slayin Pacquiao but Floyd is 2 blame 2. I mean, he's the 1 demanding the drug testing. Not that im against the random drug testing but the way it came about is what I didn't like. I question wether Mayweather really wants 2 "clean" the sport up. I think it was a way 2 take a shot at him and make it seem like its Manny's fault for 4 this fight not happening. Now Arum has plan b, Cotto. Im Puerto Rock and a big Cotto fan so my reason 4 wanting this rematch will be different compared 2 a non-Boricua or a non-Cotto fan. I want 2 see Miguel get his revenge. A lot of other fans could care less about that and I totally understand where their coming from. You can't blame Arum's disgusting ass for having a plan b cuz now 50-50 isn't enough for Floyd and he doesn't want a cutoff date. Mayweather said he wants 2 take time off aswell, idk if he meant it but he said it. These things are making Arum look elswhere for a fight and where else is he gonna look but at his own company. And every1 talks about the style of Pacquiao not working vs Floyd. I disagree. I know Pacquiao has no jab just like Shane but No1 in the world is going 2 outbox Mayweather so I think it takes a relentless brawler with good enough power, technique and non stop punching 2 beat him. He will get countered heavy by Floyd but I think a fighter has a better chance of beating him with big time pressure compared 2 trying actually trying 2 stand there and box with Mayweather. Any1 is dead meat imo if the try 2 outbox him.
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