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    #41
    I was willing to give him the benefit of doubt but now its going too far imo, the fight is huge and right there for him, no excuses now im afraid

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      #42
      Originally posted by Pirao View Post
      I want to see how many fans Haye has left after his latest ***** out against the bros, Haye IMO is a joke of the highest order, bet you 90% of the posters voting in favour of Haye are british
      im not really sure now...i mean he says that he wants to fight vitali first? but he aint a fraud or a chicken..

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        #43
        Originally posted by BritishBoxing92 View Post
        im not really sure now...i mean he says that he wants to fight vitali first? but he aint a fraud or a chicken..
        Glad to see you here. What do you think of the latest move Haye has pulled in negotiations, don't you think that's ducking?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Mrpedigree View Post
          Why shouldn't he get 50/50 !? For most fans Haye is the draw and much more exciting to watch !
          Comedy

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            #45
            Originally posted by Pirao View Post
            I'm neither German nor Ukranian, I'm a Klitschko fan because the HW division is my favourite, and the Klitschkos are both great fighters who duck nobody, they're fighting champions.

            Fair enough if the HW divison is your fave as it's always been the marquee division in boxing, the current division is 3 fighters deep. Wlad, Vitali and Haye (possibly Adamek too, I haven't been blown away by his results so far) The rest are terrible.

            Someone on here called Haye a disgrace to boxing, I think that someone needs to get out more, Margarito and Guzman are a disgrace to boxing let's have it right.

            Haye is the former UNDISPUTED Cruiserweight Champion and current WBA HW Champion. I think that's a pretty big ****in big deal and I don't think he deserves to treated just like another 'opponent', becuase thats what Johnson, Chambers, Chagaev, Gomez etc etc were. They were opponents who zero interest in trying to win the fight, they were **** scared and just wanted to survive. Perhaps there's something in the water there in Germany but I think Haye would come to fight cos he always does and let's remember he went to France and knocked out Mormeck so he must have some heart.

            The think the Klits are good fighters and Paul Williams could learn alot from Wlad cos of the way he uses his height and jab, but I personally find them to be boring especially Wlad. Vitali is a hard mother****er, I still can't believe he took that uppercut from Lewis in the 6th round of their fight and I think Haye should fight Wlad because there's a good chance he can knock him out. I'm not so confident he can do that to Vitali.

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              #46
              Originally posted by GRANDSLAM View Post
              Fair enough if the HW divison is your fave as it's always been the marquee division in boxing, the current division is 3 fighters deep. Wlad, Vitali and Haye (possibly Adamek too, I haven't been blown away by his results so far) The rest are terrible.

              Someone on here called Haye a disgrace to boxing, I think that someone needs to get out more, Margarito and Guzman are a disgrace to boxing let's have it right.

              Haye is the former UNDISPUTED Cruiserweight Champion and current WBA HW Champion. I think that's a pretty big ****in big deal and I don't think he deserves to treated just like another 'opponent', becuase thats what Johnson, Chambers, Chagaev, Gomez etc etc were. They were opponents who zero interest in trying to win the fight, they were **** scared and just wanted to survive. Perhaps there's something in the water there in Germany but I think Haye would come to fight cos he always does and let's remember he went to France and knocked out Mormeck so he must have some heart.

              The think the Klits are good fighters and Paul Williams could learn alot from Wlad cos of the way he uses his height and jab, but I personally find them to be boring especially Wlad. Vitali is a hard mother****er, I still can't believe he took that uppercut from Lewis in the 6th round of their fight and I think Haye should fight Wlad because there's a good chance he can knock him out. I'm not so confident he can do that to Vitali.
              Haye has not proven to be any better than Chagaev, in fact Chagaev defeated Valuev more decisively than Haye did. CW accomplishments mean little at HW, you have to prove you can fight at HW, Haye so far has fought ONE top 10 HW (Valuev) and struggled to get a decision against him. Wlad and Vitali eat top 10 HWs for lunch.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                I'm neither German nor Ukranian, I'm a Klitschko fan because the HW division is my favourite, and the Klitschkos are both great fighters who duck nobody, they're fighting champions.
                Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                Haye has not proven to be any better than Chagaev, in fact Chagaev defeated Valuev more decisively than Haye did. CW accomplishments mean little at HW, you have to prove you can fight at HW, Haye so far has fought ONE top 10 HW (Valuev) and struggled to get a decision against him. Wlad and Vitali eat top 10 HWs for lunch.
                Chagaev has no power, Haye would knock him out in 3 rounds

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                  Glad to see you here. What do you think of the latest move Haye has pulled in negotiations, don't you think that's ducking?
                  untill its made official i cant really think hes ducking all that much since i think their still negotiating money,fight location and date etc and if wladimir was going to fight povetkin instead then he would have agreed to take the blood tests..

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BritishBoxing92 View Post
                    untill its made official i cant really think hes ducking all that much since i think their still negotiating money,fight location and date etc and if wladimir was going to fight povetkin instead then he would have agreed to take the blood tests..
                    The dead-line for negotiating is tomorrow and they still haven't agreed on anything, after that Wlad still has to start negotiating with Povetkin. Wlad also doesn't need to agree to any demands Povetkin makes, since Povetkin is a nobody BTW.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                      The dead-line for negotiating is tomorrow and they still haven't agreed on anything, after that Wlad still has to start negotiating with Povetkin. Wlad also doesn't need to agree to any demands Povetkin makes, since Povetkin is a nobody BTW.
                      im pretty sure he will definately fight either one of the klitschkos since it is a must take fight...if not then yeah he will be heavily criticised for not taking the fight...but im mostly sure that david will man up and fight either vitali or wladimir this time..

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