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    #31
    Originally posted by garryd View Post
    These fcuking German fans make me sick with there **** sucking of the klitcho clones....the only reason they love them so much is that the bitchkos have **** heritage ! i hate ****s !
    Judging from this post I can tell you need to be Permabanned.

    But no point because there's always the dreaded Alts.

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      #32
      Originally posted by GRANDSLAM View Post
      On another note, are all the Klitards on here German & Ukranian? If not where is the appeal in being a Klit fan, Wlad especially?
      Greatness is appealing.

      People are saying the same thing about Floyd.
      People said it about Lennox.
      Neither is boring to me.

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        #33
        Originally posted by GRANDSLAM View Post
        If a deal doesn't get made then I'd have to agree with you. If he was injured for the Wlad fight then fair enough, fights are called off all the time due to injury, it's not a phenomenon. The Vitali fight is a little bit more suspect but the deal they offered him was basically a 3 fight deal where if he beat one he had to fight the other and then fight one of them again after that. It was a bull**** deal so I'm inclined to think that he's played a bit of chess with them and thought 'I'll fight Valuev get the WBA and then I got some chips so they don't try any **** like that again'. I think he should be able to do a deal with Wlad because Teddy Atlas clearly doesn't think Povetkin is ready (cos he's ****) and surely the IBF will give him another voluntary defense for that.

        Anyway if Hayes next opponent isn't a Klitchko, he's ducking them.

        On another note, are all the Klitards on here German & Ukranian? If not where is the appeal in being a Klit fan, Wlad especially?
        I'm neither German nor Ukranian, I'm a Klitschko fan because the HW division is my favourite, and the Klitschkos are both great fighters who duck nobody, they're fighting champions.

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          #34
          Actually Didn't someone post on here a bit back about the Kitchkos having German **** Heritage on their mothers side ??...i maybe wrong but i am sure i read this on here

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            #35
            Originally posted by GRANDSLAM View Post
            If a deal doesn't get made then I'd have to agree with you. If he was injured for the Wlad fight then fair enough, fights are called off all the time due to injury, it's not a phenomenon. The Vitali fight is a little bit more suspect but the deal they offered him was basically a 3 fight deal where if he beat one he had to fight the other and then fight one of them again after that. It was a bull**** deal so I'm inclined to think that he's played a bit of chess with them and thought 'I'll fight Valuev get the WBA and then I got some chips so they don't try any **** like that again'. I think he should be able to do a deal with Wlad because Teddy Atlas clearly doesn't think Povetkin is ready (cos he's ****) and surely the IBF will give him another voluntary defense for that.

            Anyway if Hayes next opponent isn't a Klitchko, he's ducking them.

            On another note, are all the Klitards on here German & Ukranian? If not where is the appeal in being a Klit fan, Wlad especially?
            I could well be wrong on this but I think Tunney is Canadian.

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              #36
              Originally posted by GRANDSLAM View Post
              If a deal doesn't get made then I'd have to agree with you. If he was injured for the Wlad fight then fair enough, fights are called off all the time due to injury, it's not a phenomenon. The Vitali fight is a little bit more suspect but the deal they offered him was basically a 3 fight deal where if he beat one he had to fight the other and then fight one of them again after that. It was a bull**** deal so I'm inclined to think that he's played a bit of chess with them and thought 'I'll fight Valuev get the WBA and then I got some chips so they don't try any **** like that again'. I think he should be able to do a deal with Wlad because Teddy Atlas clearly doesn't think Povetkin is ready (cos he's ****) and surely the IBF will give him another voluntary defense for that.

              Anyway if Hayes next opponent isn't a Klitchko, he's ducking them.

              On another note, are all the Klitards on here German & Ukranian? If not where is the appeal in being a Klit fan, Wlad especially?
              True. The first deal was bull****, but I think Wlad's crew came up with a much more negotiable deal. But I don't think we'll get the details of the deal unless Haye youtube's it or spills the beans to the UK Press.

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                #37
                I mean - if ducking is refusing to sign a three fight deal with the Klitschkos on their terms, then I suppose Haye is likely to be guilty as charged. But if reputable sources claim he turns down a 50-50 split in Germany v Wlad or Vitali, then I will call duck myself.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by OptimusWolf View Post
                  I mean - if ducking is refusing to sign a three fight deal with the Klitschkos on their terms, then I suppose Haye is likely to be guilty as charged. But if reputable sources claim he turns down a 50-50 split in Germany v Wlad or Vitali, then I will call duck myself.
                  And what reputable sources claimed that the first deal included three fights? Now we consider Haye's mouth "oh I hurt my back, can't fight you Wlad" a reputable source?

                  Haye doesn't deserve 50/50 BTW.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                    And what reputable sources claimed that the first deal included three fights? Now we consider Haye's mouth "oh I hurt my back, can't fight you Wlad" a reputable source?

                    Haye doesn't deserve 50/50 BTW.
                    Why shouldn't he get 50/50 !? For most fans Haye is the draw and much more exciting to watch !

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mrpedigree View Post
                      Why shouldn't he get 50/50 !? For most fans Haye is the draw and much more exciting to watch !
                      Do you have any proof of this?

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