Is Haye a ducking fraud or not?

[Squirrel]

Haye is the biggest coward in boxing history.

Anybody who supports that pathetic ***** Haye should be permanently banned from this forum.

Oh no wait, here we go.

[Pirao]

just wait and see what actually happens...the people who vote no might be british but then reading your posts hasn't exactly revealed you to be one of Boxingscene's most reasoned posters...

Show some posts of mine that aren't reasonable. I call Haye a ducker because that's what he is, if he hadn't pulled out of fights against the Klitschkos multiple times I wouldn't say anything. When should I be allowed to call Haye a fraud according to you? When he ducks the brothers for the 10th time? Or maybe for the 11th time? Or when he fights Audley Harrison?

[T-97]

He's ducking because he wants Vitali instead of Wlad? When Vitali is probably more available atm... if he doesn't fight Vitali, then fair enough, you've got a point.

[OptimusWolf]

He hasn't pulled out of any fights because no deal has ever been reached. He has only had three proper fights at HW.

I can't be bothered to trawl through your posts - let's just say that I don't withdraw my comment, and this thread is an example in itself.

[Pirao]

He's ducking because he wants Vitali instead of Wlad? When Vitali is probably more available atm... if he doesn't fight Vitali, then fair enough, you've got a point.

Sure he does, he wants Vitali when he has already ducked him to fight Valuev instead, right? Haye just keeps pulling out of negotiations saying he wants the other brother, and you keep falling for it, meanwhile no fight ever happens, sad.

[T-97]

Sure he does, he wants Vitali when he has already ducked him to fight Valuev instead, right? Haye just keeps pulling out of negotiations saying he wants the other brother, and you keep falling for it, meanwhile no fight ever happens, sad.

That is plain annoying - he should just decide on which one to fight. As for 'me falling for it', i've taken any talks of Haye-Klitschko of late with a pinch of salt, when the fight is signed and the weigh ins gone down, then we've got a fight. As for the first times he pulled out against Vitali and Wlad - that was plain annoying, I can understand why he pulled out when Setanta went down though in a way, as he would've made little money. And if he was injured, then I don't think he can hastle him too much for that, but I don't recall any proof ever coming out.

It was my understanding that a Wlad-Haye fight was being talked about, so I was a little dissapointed when he said he wanted Vitali instead, but hey, neither of them is an easy fight now, is it? I'm just waiting to see the outcome of all the talking, and hopefully we have a fight.

[Squirrel]

Show some posts of mine that aren't reasonable. I call Haye a ducker because that's what he is, if he hadn't pulled out of fights against the Klitschkos multiple times I wouldn't say anything. When should I be allowed to call Haye a fraud according to you? When he ducks the brothers for the 10th time? Or maybe for the 11th time? Or when he fights Audley Harrison?

The language and tone you use comes across as insanely cantankerous and truculent.

[Pirao]

The language and tone you use comes across as insanely cantankerous and truculent.

I mostly use that tone with Haye nuthuggers, which are very annoying. Still, I don't think you'll find me faulting to the truth in my posts, even if it's a fighter I don't like. I don't like Floyd but I gave him credit for fighting and dominating Mosley, however Haye has ducked the Klitschkos too many times already to be taken seriously.

[Squirrel]

I mostly use that tone with Haye nuthuggers, which are very annoying. Still, I don't think you'll find me faulting to the truth in my posts, even if it's a fighter I don't like. I don't like Floyd but I gave him credit for fighting and dominating Mosley, however Haye has ducked the Klitschkos too many times already to be taken seriously.

You seem overly eager to push your opinion onto others; the manner and mentality of your posts and threads comes across as incredibly pig-headed and narrow minded. The Klitfans are just as bad so don't think i'm jumping on you personally, but take a look at Steelhammers posts in this thread, I mean come on. I do have to remark that you say you post like that at Hayehuggers, but starting threads like this doesn't come across that way, it just seems to satisfy your desire to argue about the klitschkos, or take potshots at Haye fans knowing that ******s like Steelhammer will come and back you up incessantly.

This a is a forum for discussion and exchange of ideas and opinions, but that bull**** manner of posting is frankly childish.

I partially agree with you in the sense that Haye has talked a lot and not backed it up with action, though when I see people calling a man they've never met, or had any connection with whatsoever, "the biggest coward in boxing" and claiming that "fans of his should be banned", I seriously take umbridge with them cause that behaviour is what brings this palce down.

And I don't know why it is, but there is this bizarre phenomenon where posts coming from these users are almost copy/paste jobs. There's no thought or extensive reasoning going into them, they jsut see a thread title with "Haye" or "wladimir" in it and start dropping in Rocky quotes and "fraud coward *****", and other choice insults.

[Pirao]

You seem overly eager to push your opinion onto others; the manner and mentality of your posts and threads comes across as incredibly pig-headed and narrow minded. The Klitfans are just as bad so don't think i'm jumping on you personally, but take a look at Steelhammers posts in this thread, I mean come on.

This a is a forum for discussion and exchange of ideas and opinions, but that bull**** manner of posting is frankly childish.

I partially agree with you in the sense that Haye has talked a lot and not backed it up with action, though when I see people calling a man they've never met, or had any connection with whatsoever, "the biggest coward in boxing" and claiming that "fans of his should be banned", I seriously take umbridge with them cause that behaviour is what brings this palce down.

And I don't know why it is, but there is this bizarre phenomenon where posts coming from these users are almost copy/paste jobs. There's no thought or extensive reasoning going into them, they jsut see a thread title with "Haye" or "wladimir" in it and start dropping in Rocky quotes and "fraud coward *****", and other choice insults.

There are many childish Haye nuthuggers as well, Soir and Earl-****ey come to mind.

But I'm not SteelHammer, my posts are not copy-pastes, I think my posts are reasonably reasoned, and I'm not asking for anyone to get banned, I'm just calling a spade a spade, when Haye stops ducking the Klitschkos and finally gets in the ring to fight instead of running his mouth, I'll stop calling him a fraud. If you call them out and then don't fight the top guys, you don't get respect. Until then, **** him.