Martinez can't box with Floyd that is silly. He can't even box with a clear eyed Pavlik.
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Sergio Martinez is OVERRATED & would get BEAT by Pac & Floyd
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Originally posted by Holtol View PostMartinez can't box with Floyd that is silly. He can't even box with a clear eyed Pavlik.
its really not that complicated. If i was either floyd or pac i would make a fight vs sergio if they cant come to terms.
its a great challenging fight to the untrained eye.
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Originally posted by Holtol View PostMartinez can't box with Floyd that is silly. He can't even box with a clear eyed Pavlik.
The fact he worked through Williams ridiculous reach, with poise, and accuracy says a lot though. He can adjust. He gets outside when he has to and can fight inside when he has to.
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Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby View Postthank you.
its really not that complicated. If i was either floyd or pac i would make a fight vs sergio if they cant come to terms.
its a great challenging fight to the untrained eye.
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Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby View PostNO.
he is a very good fighter who is having a unspectacular career. I dont think he's elite HOF level just below it. nothing more, nothing less.
But I agree he appears to have come out of nowhere and deserved more respect but I don't think he'll go down as a Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Pernell Whitaker, or Oscar De La Hoya type of fighter even though Oscar may have ducked him. I think he'll be more of a Ken Norton who will be known for beating a big name and that will be brought up every now and then. or maybe even a Rid**** Bowe/Moore type of fighter.
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Originally posted by Natedatpkid View PostI agree. I just think Sergio has a pretty good shot to beat Mayweather though just because he's bigger and pretty fast too.
But I agree he appears to have come out of nowhere and deserved more respect but I don't think he'll go down as a Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Pernell Whitaker, or Oscar De La Hoya type of fighter even though Oscar may have ducked him. I think he'll be more of a Ken Norton who will be known for beating a big name and that will be brought up every now and then. or maybe even a Rid**** Bowe/Moore type of fighter.
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Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby View PostHe has been getting a lot of pub lately & its time he gets the time honored hate thread tradition in NSB.
He would get outpointed & out classed by mayweather in any weight & he would get outworked by pac at 154 (fo sho) & i would nuthuggingly bet points to beat him at 160.
Martinez really doesnt posses anything spectacular about him. He's just a very good solid fighter. Not some burgeoning supernova talent on his way to legend. He's 35 years old & is ripe for the picking.
He's very good across the board. speed, boxing skill, slickness, power, etc. But He's not great at anything.
I think he gets beat by floyd at 154 & 160 in a tactical fight. Floyd wins that fight hands down. Vs pac at 154 i would favor pac with no worries. 160 is a toss up.
People want to act like it would be something CRAZY if these fights happen especially the pac fight. But in reality, these type of physical anomaly match ups have happened countless times throughout boxing history.
Henry Armstrong is about the same size actually smaller than pacquiao (pac has a bigger reach) & he battled for the 126,135,147, & 160 crown. sam langford is the same height as Pac & was tangling with heavyweights. Dwight Qawi was shorter than pac & he's a hall of fame lightheavyweight.
What's happening now is that ignorant children run amok in message boards thinking that pacquiao, along with floyd are the first superstar boxers of the internet/blogging age think that they are doing something new & amazing hence the knee jerk nincom****ingpoop analysis.
In all actuality, its nothing new in the long storied & rich tradition of boxing.
In conclusion, sergio would get beat by pac & floyd in very competitive exciting matches.
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Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby View Postdont let your ****cidal *******ual tendencies cloud your judgment. i hate floyd's guts but he beats martinez at 154 or 160. if slow as molasses kelly pavlik was tagging martinez what's a accurate puncher like floyd gonna do?
*wtf is going on? im defending floyd?*
But its true bro
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