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    #11
    Ortiz has got alot more to lsoe than campbell, it will be a very intretsing fight

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      #12
      Originally posted by Ekscape View Post
      Ortiz will prove all his critics wrong on May 15th... if you're so sure of this then bet me 300k on Ortiz
      Ill take the bet........PM me to confirm

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        #13
        Out of interest did anyone notice any signs that Ortiz didn't have what it takes mentally prior to the Maidana fight?

        Oh and I hope this fight is an absolute war which Campbell takes control of, then Ortiz comes back Gatti-style and everyone hops back on the bandwagon.

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          #14
          Originally posted by dans01234 View Post
          Dude, he folded under pressure in a fight he was still in and made comments after that no one can disregard.

          He folded under a beating not preassure and as usual a ****** boxing fan thinks he knows what a boxers body is telling him more than the boxer itself. and I already know what you are going to say "well if he doesn't want to get punched in the face he should get another job" which is 100% wrong. Ortiz didn't just get punched in the face he had the ****t beat out of him. He was done at that point so my question to you is why take more punishment? Because there was a slight chance he might pull off some last minute comeback? Because he should be a warrior? *** that **** boxing is a sport not a ***ing duel to the death.

          My take is so he quit so the *** what? His career will be longer and his brain wont be fried when he gets older unlike so many of these so called warriors who ****t in diapers and don't even know their own name.


          Plus your MMA comment shows just how little thought you actually put into your argument when you have to bring up something so unrelated to the actual subject we are debating.

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            #15
            When he wins or not, he's still got Bradley to worry about next.

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              #16
              Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
              He folded under a beating not preassure and as usual a ****** boxing fan thinks he knows what a boxers body is telling him more than the boxer itself. and I already know what you are going to say "well if he doesn't want to get punched in the face he should get another job" which is 100% wrong. Ortiz didn't just get punched in the face he had the ****t beat out of him. He was done at that point so my question to you is why take more punishment? Because there was a slight chance he might pull off some last minute comeback? Because he should be a warrior? *** that **** boxing is a sport not a ***ing duel to the death.

              My take is so he quit so the *** what? His career will be longer and his brain wont be fried when he gets older unlike so many of these so called warriors who ****t in diapers and don't even know their own name.


              Plus your MMA comment shows just how little thought you actually put into your argument when you have to bring up something so unrelated to the actual subject we are debating.
              I'm not questioning his reasoning for quitting, never did. What a man chooses to do in the ring is his own business. I never faulted Cotto for taking a knee against Marg. Never questioned DLH retiring in his corner against Pac. But there is a factor of toughness in boxing and so far, we have seen that when Ortiz is in trouble, he does not react well.

              He very well may go on to have a great career and I'm not rooting against him or even rooting for Campbell. I want Ortiz to do well. I just question whether or not, mentally, he can see himself bloodied and be able to fight through it. Valid question.

              As for the MMA comment. You started it with your boxing fans comment. I don't know you, you don't know me, but you're the one that made an assumption that I don't know what I'm talking about. Stick to the points of discussion and we'll be fine.

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                #17
                Originally posted by dans01234 View Post
                No, I'm not so sure of this.

                The x factor I alluded to in my original post is too important. We just don't know what Nate Campbell will show up.
                you have a point but i'm sure nate campbell is motivated for this fight becuase if he takes victor ortiz lightly then he might end up losing this one big. but this is why i am rooting for nate campbell becuase this is the type of fight that he needs and if he wins this fight impressively then i see nate and the winner of timothy bradley and marcos maidana fight happening before the end of this year

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BoxerDood View Post
                  When he wins or not, he's still got Bradley to worry about next.
                  Bradley would beat the **** out of Ortiz, if Ortiz does get passed Campbell. Even though Bradley isn't the biggest puncher, I can see him making Ortiz quit.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ekscape View Post
                    Ortiz will prove all his critics wrong on May 15th... if you're so sure of this then bet me 300k on Ortiz
                    I've got 50k that says Campbell beats Ortiz. You game?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SoldierWarrior View Post
                      Bradley would beat the **** out of Ortiz, if Ortiz does get passed Campbell. Even though Bradley isn't the biggest puncher, I can see him making Ortiz quit.
                      Bradley ispressure fighter, thats why i think he will beats ortiz if oe=rtiz gets past campbell. If nate wins, he will defo call for a bradley rematch.
                      Tim Bradley is the best 140 pounder atm

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