An Unbiased Look At Pacquiao-Mayweather

[FaustoGeraci]

Red k for not reading the rest of the posts. Some kid put up a link to the official handbook for athletes in the olympic games and on page 17 it says they can be tested at any place at any time, so clearly TS is speaking out of his ass.

When they say tests they mean blood and urine. Not blood specifically, but tests in general. Also like I said they could never prove if he was blood doping and hgh is detectable within 84 days of usage. Victor Conte said himself all of this. Check out ring ****zines article. Marion Jones passed 100 tests or so and was cheating the whole time.

[Hannibal Barca]

First of all the real loser in this thread is anybody that ordered that Hopkins PPV. What a disgrace. Check out the Toney interview at fighthype. Hopkins is shook.

Second of all HGH is traceable within 84 days of usage. EPO is hardly detected, as a matter of fact never has been, and the Olympics do URINE tests throughout the event. Tests in general. But it doesn't matter, because 24 days would of been plenty of time. "Dont duck me" haha are you for real?

If you claimed "Olympic athletes have been beating test for years", than you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. It wasn't until the late 1990’s that the IOC took the initiative to battle doping head on. This lead to the inception of the World Anti Doping Agency (WADA) in 1999, thus introducing a new method of drug testing through both blood and urine samples; Random so that users couldn’t form cycles around testing dates. These testing methods were first introduced in the 2004 summer games and the 2006 winter games. As expected, being so recently implemented, it didn’t completely eliminate attempts at PED use in the 2004 Summer games as several medalist in weightlifting, and cross country were disqualified do to failed drug test. However, in the 2006 winter games, only a single athlete failed a drug test and had his or her medal revoked. During the Beijing games, 3,667 athletes were tested by the IOC under the au****es of the World Anti-Doping Agency. Both urine and blood testing were used in a coordinated effort to nullify potential PED users. Only six athletes failed drug test while in competition in Beijing. Thats roughly 1.6% of the total number of athletes who participated in the Beijing olympics. If translations are necessary, based on that numbers alone, WADA has rendered potential PED's users practically non existent.

[Hannibal Barca]

When they say tests they mean blood and urine. Not blood specifically, but tests in general. Also like I said they could never prove if he was blood doping and hgh is detectable within 84 days of usage. Victor Conte said himself all of this. Check out ring ****zines article. Marion Jones passed 100 tests or so and was cheating the whole time.

Wrong again. Marion Jones was never subject to WADA HGH testing. The 2000 Sydney games were the games Jones admitted to using performance enhancing drugs; and her admissions were supported by her tremendous success in those games. That was 4 years before HGH testing of any kind was implemented into the Olympics. If your curious about her performance in those games? She came in fifth in the Long Jump and competed in the women's 4x100m relay where the USA women's team, failed to qualify. It wasn't until 2008, the Beijing games, that WADA made tremendous advancements in their HGH testing, and began out of competition testing.

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[immortal tech]

yep very unbiased indeed TS

[ajohnz]

Last time I checked nice is spelt with a ''c'', and thanks for touching on absolutely nothing in the original post. Neither one of these guys pay my bills, so why would I care one way or the other in a personal manner? I have a life thanks.

last time i checked "spelled" wasn't spelled with a "t"

[Hannibal Barca]

First of all the real loser in this thread is anybody that ordered that Hopkins PPV. What a disgrace. Check out the Toney interview at fighthype. Hopkins is shook.

Second of all HGH is traceable within 84 days of usage. EPO is hardly detected, as a matter of fact never has been, and the Olympics do URINE tests throughout the event. Tests in general. But it doesn't matter, because 24 days would of been plenty of time. "Dont duck me" haha are you for real?

Wrong again.

EPO is detectable. it came into clinical practice around 1989, when the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the hormone. Over the last 20 years, scientists have improved and evolved the synthetic nature of the drug. About 10 or 11 years ago ‘Aranesp’ became available, and in the last few years CERA also came into the market. These being the drugs often used as PED's. EPO, Aranesp and CERA are all the same basic structure of the EPO molecule; they just have variants added in to produce a longer lasting effect. When EPO was first introduced it was required to be injected usually three times a week. When Aranesp came out this was reduced to once a week and a single injection of CERA would maintain a patients hemo level for up to a month. As synthetic drugs like Aranesp and CERA are not identical to the natural hormone, it is traceable. In fact, some manufacturers have installed 'indicators' or 'markers' into the drugs to illuminate their use in professional sports.

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[Hannibal Barca]

I was at the Olympics in Vancouver. CBC was handing out pamphlets on drug testing and the side effects of taking drugs and blood transfusions etc. That's where I got my facts from. I assumed they were facts. They said the blood is taken up to 30 days prior to the events and immediately after, and that urine is random throughout. I tried looking it up through google but unfortunately I am having a hard time finding anything specific. So if the actual information being given out AT THE OLYMPICS is false, please provide me with facts stating that they do BLOOD tests throughout the games before events. BLOOD tests were said to be given 30 DAYS PRIOR to the event, immediately AFTERWARDS, and urine tests were random THROUGHOUT the actual event.

I do know for a fact (as does anybody who follows sports) that 10% of cheaters actually get caught. Many athletes don't get nailed until long afterwards (Marion Jones etc.) or not at all (Lance Armstrong, Usain Bolt etc.) That's being randomly tested all year. The masking agents are always ahead of the testing due to the laws placed to protect the athlete/cheater. Pacquiao did not have to agree to any testing, the sanctioning bodies have their own rules and govern the sport. This thread wasn't about if Pacquiao is clean or not (I think he is, but it doesn't matter). It's about a boxer (Floyd) thinking he's bigger than the sport and being the only boxer in the world that won't fight Pacquiao, and demands said tests.

Wrong again. WADA test before, during, and after each athletes respected event. For example, Asafa Powell was tested four times within his first two weeks in Beijing, including being tested around three or so days before the 100m final.

"About two days ago, I got pretty upset, because since I've been here, they have tested me four times, and took blood, a lot of blood,"

[Phil Ivey]

LOL at unbiased look, you've got to be kidding?

[Titing Kabayo]

Last time I checked nice is spelt with a ''c'', and thanks for touching on absolutely nothing in the original post. Neither one of these guys pay my bills, so why would I care one way or the other in a personal manner? I have a life thanks.

Last time I heard, "v" is next to "c" on my keyboard so I think this is just a typo... but I never heard of the word "spelt"... "spelled" might be acceptable though..

[odogg8121]

It is being unbiased to point out that Mayweather thinks he is bigger than the sport. He is the only combat sports athlete in history that thinks he can demand testing that the athletic commission in a state which he lives in does not. That's like a the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys demanding the opposing QB undergoes a different test outside the NFL rules before the Superbowl or they don't show up and play. It's ridiculous.

man ur slow...Zab wanted SSM to take OST when there were going to fight...the fight never happened I dont knw if thats to blame but it was asked.