An Unbiased Look At Pacquiao-Mayweather

[Gutz]

[B]

If you think Mayweather sr was the only one talking about it or has that much power, you really are naive.

Please show me links of anyone bringing up PEDS with Pac before Sr..


I'll wait..

[IMDAZED]

It has everything to do with negotiations and stopping Pacquaio from agreeing to OST..

Like I said.. Pac nobody *****..

Ok you don't comprehend very well. I'll try one more time.

• They accused him.
  
• Pac agrees to negotiating anyway
  
• Pac agrees to OST

See how the first bullet becomes moot? No? Ok.

[IMDAZED]

That is true Mosley could end all that talk I don't fancy the chances of that but it is boxing and stranger things have occured. I don't think the testing issue would exactly die though but it would end up as more of a footnote in history.

I gotta wonder who is being set up for the fail - Floyd or Shane.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Ok you don't comprehend very well. I'll try one more time.

• They accused him.
  
• Pac agrees to negotiating anyway
  
• Pac agrees to OST

See how the first bullet becomes moot? No? Ok.

Good luck with Gutz. He claims hes 34. I.Can.Not.Tell.

[The Gambler1981]

You make a good point - although I don't believe they took it to the media until it became apparent that Team Pac was playing games. Actually, the first person to take it to the media did it on December 11...Freddie Roach.

Yea, it was already out there but still I am a believer that negotiations are best handled behind closed doors. Now both sides were playing in the media before that but to me things really came unglued when Golden Boy let out that one press release stating that Manny would not agree. Things were already starting to go bad with the Cowboys Stadium issue though.

Like I said there is enough blame to go around but it all could have been avoided rather easily.

[IMDAZED]

Yea, it was already out there but still I am a believer that negotiations are best handled behind closed doors. Now both sides were playing in the media before that but to me things really came unglued when Golden Boy let out that one press release stating that Manny would not agree. Things were already starting to go bad with the Cowboys Stadium issue though.

Like I said there is enough blame to go around but it all could have been avoided rather easily.

Can't argue with you, man. Can't argue at all. Just wish they agreed.

[The Gambler1981]

I gotta wonder who is being set up for the fail - Floyd or Shane.

I would thnk Shane since he makes a better patsy, Floyd-Manny is just so much bigger than Manny-Mosley. If I was Shane I would not want the fight going to the cards, which sucks for him because going in there to knock out Mayweather is a pretty bad gameplan.

[Buckfever]

It's an interesting argument, but what if Floyd really believes that Manny is using? What if Floyd saw what Margarito did to Cotto and how it phucked up his career and want's to protect himself, not against a loss, but against being cheated.

I mean Mosley used PEDs, Margarito at the very least tried to use illegal wraps, it's not like he's making schit up.

I think the argument of Floyd picking matchups based on risk/reward is legit, but that is a separate issue.

Also the argument that PEDs are difficult to detect, is a spurious argument to use against Floyd's demands, as it would suggest that tighter controls should indeed be the new normal.

[IMDAZED]

I would thnk Shane since he makes a better patsy, Floyd-Manny is just so much bigger than Manny-Mosley. If I was Shane I would not want the fight going to the cards, which sucks for him because going in there to knock out Mayweather is a pretty bad gameplan.

I would kill to see what Shane looks like in the gym.

[The Gambler1981]

Can't argue with you, man. Can't argue at all. Just wish they agreed.

The only thing I hate argueing with them about is that Floyd was in the wrong for asking for the testing to be done. I don't know how you can fault anyone in looking out for they think is in their best interest.