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    Originally posted by snd_dsigner_dan View Post
    Whoever says Floyd needs Pac more than Pac needs Floyd or vice versa is a dumbass. They both need each other to cement their legacies.


    Nah..

    Pac legacy is set. Pac can retire today and will be a top ATG, HBO will make a special about him in the future and Nike will continue to sell his shoes..

    While Floyd legacy will always have question marks...

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      LOL an "unbiased" opinion from an obvious Pac fan who doesn't like Mayweather anymore..

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        Good thread and post

        I agree with everything TS said

        and whats best is that i just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to geico

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          Why the fook are Mayweather fans adding Mosley to his resume when he hasnt beat him yet????

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            Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post
            I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of the word ironic. He's fighting Mosley, the same reason he fights everyone, because he knows he's going to win. Mosley is a 37 year old past his prime fighter, he's not going to risk losing and not setting up a huge payday with Pac. Which is why I ask the question about the whole steroid thing because it doesn't make sense for him.
            Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496 View Post


            Because Pacquiao isn't refusing to take the tests, just refusing to do it when floyd and Roger want them to. I mean I don't blame them because Mayweather is holding no cards in this at all.

            Whether you Floyd fans like it or not (I don't care about either fighter) Floyd needs Pac, Pac doesn't need Floyd.

            When it's all said and done, in regards to legacy, if Floyd doesn't fight Pac he will be scrutinized historically for it. On the other hand, Pac is viewed as a monster for even being at 147 with these guys.

            Pac's legacy is already determined, Floyd's is not.
            I think you better revaluate the meaning. The definition of Irony is "an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected." Which would infer that it's somehow surprising that Mayweather is fighting Mosley after the Pacquiao negotiations broke down because of Pacquaio's side refusing the OSDT. If Mosley had refused testing you would have a point. But Mosley, with his history, has accepted testing and here we are with the fight. So please explain where the irony is? If you truly know the definition of that word. And I don't care about their legacys. That has nothing to do with this. Also, Mayweather and Roger don't determine when the test are done.
            Last edited by Calilloyd; 04-06-2010, 02:19 PM.

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              Originally posted by FaustoGeraci View Post
              Except Cotto that beat Mosley right? You think 2007 Cotto would of beat 2009 Pacquiao? You're delusional.
              Cotto beat Mosley in 2007. That was a PRIME Cotto that beat Shane. The one Pac fought just got his ass beat by Marg arguably with plaster and then went life and death with Clottey before getting served by Pac.

              When did I say the 2007 Cotto would beat Pac? Why are you making up stuff and putting words in my mouth. First you said I thought Shane was in his prime when he fought Cotto and now you are saying that I said Cotto wouldve beat Pac in 2007.

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                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                What is the difference between extreme endurance and regular endurance?

                I think YOU think you're the slick one.
                Come on Imdazed you know what the hell I'm talking about...lol. A boxing match enquires a certain level of endurance to compete at the highest level of that sport. Cycling on the other hand, where endurance is the key to winning (a the biggest factor) requires a type of stamina that is by far higher than a sport like boxing.

                When it comes to cycling, being able to have that much more energy etc is very critcal especially considering their events last several days vs 36 minutes in boxing.

                Again .......

                several days on competing vs 36 minutes of competition? It doesnt take a genious to see why cyclist would use it more, as opposed to boxers

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                  Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                  I disagree. Wouldnt you favor Shane over everyone that Pac has ever fought? Including the Post Marg Cotto?

                  No you must have limited intelligence because YOU said "Floyd needs Pac". I just made the point that he DOESN'T and you agreed sow which is it?

                  When you say this:


                  "It's the same as if Tyson never fought Holyfield or Leonard never fought Hagler. The question would always be there as to whether or not he could beat that fighter."

                  Doesnt that also apply to Pacquiao? I mean its obvious who the elephant in his room is. Its Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  Come on man, you serious want to do the lawyer thing and argue in circles?

                  Pac fought a prime JMM who is better than anyone Floyd has ever fought. Floyd's best on his resume are a past his prime DLH, past his prime Mosley now and Castillo in his prime who he arguably lost the first fight against!

                  Pac has already exceeded his expectations as a fighter, the fact he has beat lagit welters is AMAZING for a guy starting out his career at 106lbs.

                  That's Pac's legacy, not NEEDING to fight Mayweather. Pac can retire tomorrow and his legacy is set, that was my point.

                  Where as Floyd's career can be picked apart, starting with why he didn't fight Marg when Marg was this feared fighter. Why he didn't fight Mosley when he was more in his prime, why he hasn't fought Pacquiao?

                  These are all lagit questions you fanboys refuse to answer.

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                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S View Post
                    Come on Imdazed you know what the hell I'm talking about...lol. A boxing match enquires a certain level of endurance to compete at the highest level of that sport. Cycling on the other hand, where endurance is the key to winning (a the biggest factor) requires a type of stamina that is by far higher than a sport like boxing.

                    When it comes to cycling, being able to have that much more energy etc is very critcal especially considering their events last several days vs 36 minutes in boxing.

                    Again .......

                    several days on competing vs 36 minutes of competition? It doesnt take a genious to see why cyclist would use it more, as opposed to boxers
                    Have you been to a full training camp? That doesn't require extreme endurance? Please.

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                      Originally posted by Gutz View Post
                      Nah..

                      Pac legacy is set. Pac can retire today and will be a top ATG, HBO will make a special about him in the future and Nike will continue to sell his shoes..

                      While Floyd legacy will always have question marks...
                      The only problem is that some will ask, "He sure was great but he never fought Mayweather." Everyone wants this fight. Even the people who don't watch boxing want this fight. If Manny loves his fans, he'd give them this fight.

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