An Unbiased Look At Pacquiao-Mayweather

[FaustoGeraci]

1. Explain the 84 day window regarding HGH

2. Blood doping and blood transfusions are detectable even within several weeks, although the optimum method is for a year. This is irrelevant, however, as both Mayweather and Mosley will be subject to testing for a year. So would have Pac if he had...agreed.

3. Not in time for Vancouver? Just in time for the fight.

4. Not only Mayweather feels this testing is needed.

5. You're welcome.

1. I don't need to explain what was already posted.

2. Several weeks? Be precise, because that's going to further prove what I wrote about the 24 day to 14 day difference. Mosley and Mayweather will be tested for 7 months after the fight as part of this one? That's news to me. Provide a link.

3. Since when did the WADA monitor boxing? Oh that's right, never.

4. You're right, I forgot about his family.

5. Right back at ya.

[FaustoGeraci]

Yea, I missed spelled the word, but the point is, they have OSDT. This isn't "mayweather only" as you alluded to before.

Oh a German promoter and his fighter? Okay let me rephrase. THE MAJORITY OF THE BOXING WORLD AND EVERY STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION. There we go.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

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I think it's more ironic that a fighter who has admitted to using is willing to take the test, while the fighter that claims he has never used refuses. And since Mosley is willing to take those test, why would Mayweather NOT fight him?

I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of the word ironic. He's fighting Mosley, the same reason he fights everyone, because he knows he's going to win. Mosley is a 37 year old past his prime fighter, he's not going to risk losing and not setting up a huge payday with Pac. Which is why I ask the question about the whole steroid thing because it doesn't make sense for him.

What's interesting to me is how the focus is on Floyd's actions. Really strange.

14 days is no different from 24 so Floyd is ducking.

BS but let's play along. Using that logic...why would Pacquiao care when the tests were?

Because Pacquiao isn't refusing to take the tests, just refusing to do it when floyd and Roger want them to. I mean I don't blame them because Mayweather is holding no cards in this at all.

Whether you Floyd fans like it or not (I don't care about either fighter) Floyd needs Pac, Pac doesn't need Floyd.

When it's all said and done, in regards to legacy, if Floyd doesn't fight Pac he will be scrutinized historically for it. On the other hand, Pac is viewed as a monster for even being at 147 with these guys.

Pac's legacy is already determined, Floyd's is not.

[FaustoGeraci]

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I think it's more ironic that a fighter who has admitted to using is willing to take the test, while the fighter that claims he has never used refuses. And since Mosley is willing to take those test, why would Mayweather NOT fight him?

Why would Mosley fight Pacquiao without the tests? Hmm, maybe because he's not shook. Why would Mosley bend to Mayweather's demands? Because he's far from a draw and isn't rated the number 1 P4P boxer in the world, unlike Pacquiao.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of the word logic. He's fighting Mosley, the same reason he fights everyone, because he knows he's going to win. Mosley is a 37 year old past his prime fighter, he's not going to risk losing and not setting up a huge payday with Pac. Which is why I ask the question about the whole steroid thing because it doesn't make sense for him.



Because Pacquiao isn't refusing to take the tests, just refusing to do it when floyd and Roger want them to. I mean I don't blame them because Mayweather is holding no cards in this at all.

Whether you Floyd fans like it or not (I don't care about either fighter) Floyd needs Pac, Pac doesn't need Floyd.

When it's all said and done, in regards to legacy, if Floyd doesn't fight Pac he will be scrutinized historically for it. On the other hand, Pac is viewed as a monster for even being at 147 with these guys.

Pac's legacy is already determined, Floyd's is not.

Since when does Floyd need Pac? Floyd is already an ATG. Been one.

Mosley is a better fighter then anyone Pac has ever fought.

[IMDAZED]

1. I don't need to explain what was already posted.

2. Several weeks? Be precise, because that's going to further prove what I wrote about the 24 day to 14 day difference. Mosley and Mayweather will be tested for 7 months after the fight as part of this one? That's news to me. Provide a link.

3. Since when did the WADA monitor boxing? Oh that's right, never.

4. You're right, I forgot about his family.

5. Right back at ya.

You're quite selective. Both Mosley and Mayweather have agreed to be tested for the year. Something Pacquiao didn't. Second, NO ONE monitors boxing. Third, Arthur Abraham participates in OST. Are we done?

[DE100]

So much B.S. said in here, I dont know where to start lol

[IMDAZED]

I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of the word logic. He's fighting Mosley, the same reason he fights everyone, because he knows he's going to win. Mosley is a 37 year old past his prime fighter, he's not going to risk losing and not setting up a huge payday with Pac. Which is why I ask the question about the whole steroid thing because it doesn't make sense for him.



Because Pacquiao isn't refusing to take the tests, just refusing to do it when floyd and Roger want them to. I mean I don't blame them because Mayweather is holding no cards in this at all.

Whether you Floyd fans like it or not (I don't care about either fighter) Floyd needs Pac, Pac doesn't need Floyd.

When it's all said and done, in regards to legacy, if Floyd doesn't fight Pac he will be scrutinized historically for it. On the other hand, Pac is viewed as a monster for even being at 147 with these guys.

Pac's legacy is already determined, Floyd's is not.

STFU. Roger and Floyd didn't tell them when to take the tests. They didn't write the protocol. Pacquiao refused USADA protocol. Grow up.

[FaustoGeraci]

I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of the word ironic. He's fighting Mosley, the same reason he fights everyone, because he knows he's going to win. Mosley is a 37 year old past his prime fighter, he's not going to risk losing and not setting up a huge payday with Pac. Which is why I ask the question about the whole steroid thing because it doesn't make sense for him.



Because Pacquiao isn't refusing to take the tests, just refusing to do it when floyd and Roger want them to. I mean I don't blame them because Mayweather is holding no cards in this at all.

Whether you Floyd fans like it or not (I don't care about either fighter) Floyd needs Pac, Pac doesn't need Floyd.

When it's all said and done, in regards to legacy, if Floyd doesn't fight Pac he will be scrutinized historically for it. On the other hand, Pac is viewed as a monster for even being at 147 with these guys.

Pac's legacy is already determined, Floyd's is not.

Perfectly said. Excellent post.

[Khalid X]

Yes but his point is irrelevant. While obviously HGH has benefits for boxers, so does EPO. To ask why someone would cheat when there are legal methods is just dumb, dumb, dumb.

How is that dumb? Lets break down which is the dumb choice here:

A) Run in High altitudes, use and altitude simulator or use a sleaping chamber and get the same exact benefits of EPO use with no side effects or risk of being banned from a sport.

B) Use EPO or Blood doping, have the same benefits as the procedures above, deal with side effects and risk getting caught doping and having your name forever tarnished?

I would love to here you answer since you pointed out I was dumb for saying this. Now if an athlete is lazy and wants to take a shortcut that is another thing.