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    #31
    Originally posted by The Pretender
    Ruiz by UD or DQ.
    How should John get it?
    Originally posted by McKay
    But I just think Ruiz will land the cleaner harder punches througout the fight and too savy to leave himself open to taking one of Valuev's big punches in the early rounds.
    I agree it’s what John will try to do but how will he avoid Nik’s punches while he can’t move as fast and successful as Cliff was?
    Originally posted by McKay
    I expect Valuev to tire by the 6th round at the latest and Ruiz to pretty much dominate after 6 round and land alot of clean scoring shots.
    Valuev has a decent stamina. And John will tire fast in the clinches.
    Originally posted by GattiFan
    This is a joke. Cliff Etienne has the chin of a dentist.
    Etienne is a skillfull, experienced fighter. He has much energy and he’s not a coward.
    Originally posted by GattiFan
    Beating him makes you the number one contender?
    Don’t forget what’s Heavyweight division today. For example what did Hasim do to become number 1 pretender? Cole, Cawley, Calloway, Terrence Lewis and Kali Meehan ?all they are much worse than Cliff, Levin or Richard ****o. Do you still think he deserves to be number 1 WBC pretender? Do you still think Nik hasn’t any rights to be number 1 of WBA?
    Originally posted by GattiFan
    It makes me ill that you have to pass up and screw over 20 better heavyweights to give this fat russian bastard a shot at the title.
    Who are they? Who are 20 best heavies who deserve this title shot? You may hate Nik or hate Russians and its your right but you write true ****.
    Originally posted by Hurlex
    but i can also see Valuev getting tired really fast and being wasted by 5round of energy
    It’s impossible. How can he help Niko to get tired?
    Last edited by Diricul; 06-01-2005, 11:12 AM.

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      #32
      Nikolay TKO John in the 6th round.

      It’s only Rahman, Maskaev and may be Brewster who could hurt Valuev. We’ll see also what about Tyson, Tua and Peter. The others will fall after stepping in the square with Niko.

      The great shape of Clifford that he showed in the Valuev fight would let him TKO both Klitchko. Especially Wladimir.

      Richard ****o who lost to Nik last year is back! He’s a very skillful boxer and can simply become top contender within a year.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Diricul
        Nikolay TKO John in the 6th round.

        It’s only Rahman, Maskaev and may be Brewster who could hurt Valuev. We’ll see also what about Tyson, Tua and Peter. The others will fall after stepping in the square with Niko.

        The great shape of Clifford that he showed in the Valuev fight would let him TKO both Klitchko. Especially Wladimir.

        Richard ****o who lost to Nik last year is back! He’s a very skillful boxer and can simply become top contender within a year.
        I'm not sure I completely understand, are you saying that Etienne looked good enough to beat either of the Klitschko brothers against Valuev? Or are you talking about Valuev?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Diricul
          What are you talking about? What did Nik do that deserves DQ?

          He rabbit punches.

          That is he punches people in the back of the head.

          This is illegal in boxing and if you watch the Etienne fight,

          the final punch that he uses to crush Etienne was one of these illegal shot.

          But it was also one of many.

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            #35
            4 people voted for Ruiz by DQ. That is funny in a classical sense. How I hate Johnny Ruiz. Its really sad. So that means if he ends up making an attempt to unify the belts....he has a chance at DQ'ing Vitali. LOL!

            The misery never ends.



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              #36
              Originally posted by RunWithKnives
              4 people voted for Ruiz by DQ. That is funny in a classical sense. How I hate Johnny Ruiz. Its really sad. So that means if he ends up making an attempt to unify the belts....he has a chance at DQ'ing Vitali. LOL!

              The misery never ends.

              Or maybe Vitali could test positive for steroids after his back surgery.

              Then Ruiz would be the TRUE champ.

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                #37
                Originally posted by joeboxer
                Or maybe Vitali could test positive for steroids after his back surgery.

                Then Ruiz would be the TRUE champ.
                That's not funny, even the thought of Ruiz as the "True" champ makes me cringe.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hollister
                  That's not funny, even the thought of Ruiz as the "True" champ makes me cringe.

                  I think Ruiz's last fight against Toney really crushed his spirit.

                  If he chooses to defend the title against Nic, it will be his last defense.

                  I think the KO comes in the 6th or 7th rounds. I am as sure of this as anyfight I have ever predicted.

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                    #39
                    I knew it was too good to be true. How in the hell could Toney test positive? It sucks. We thought Huggy was gone, and then he comes back with more approval than ever before. I cant belive it. Just watch, if Valuev knocks him out cold: There will be some sort of conspiracy theory.

                    King or Ruiz camp might claim there was a height and weight cap in the clause stating that Valuev is too big to be fighting against Ruiz. Then, the tides will turn and Ruiz gets his belt back via DQ. Meaning another hard earned victory for the quiet man. Shortly thereafter:

                    Every comparison in the book about how he would hug Ali for 12 rounds and win the fight on the cards would then be our demise.



                    "You know what ol jack burton used to say."
                    "This Valuev is a scary ogre. I hope he twurks the fairy's monkey though."



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                      #40
                      i hate to say this kind of thing since i have alot of respect for ruiz, but...hopefully valuev ko's ruiz and puts him out for like 30 seconds,it could be enough to scare ruiz into retirement and then we wont have to watch the hugging anymore,and who knows maybe within the next 5 years after ruiz is gone we may have a proper hw div w/ peters having his eye on the prize.

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