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    #21
    I dont know..this big f**k may underestimate Ruiz and get Ko'ed...this big guy will lose either by ko or DQ when he gets deperate. But yeah i can see Ruiz getting KO'ed...but i can also see This big f**k getting tired really fast and being wasted by 5round of energy
    ~~~
    ps:i called him "big f**k" through my whole post cuz i forgot how to spell his name..sorry haha

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      #22
      Originally posted by Hurlex
      I dont know..this big f**k may underestimate Ruiz and get Ko'ed...this big guy will lose either by ko or DQ when he gets deperate. But yeah i can see Ruiz getting KO'ed...but i can also see This big f**k getting tired really fast and being wasted by 5round of energy
      ~~~
      ps:i called him "big f**k" through my whole post cuz i forgot how to spell his name..sorry haha
      he doesn't have great power for a gy his size. the gy hasn't fought any1 near top 15
      ruiz UD

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        #23
        Valuev by UD.

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          #24
          the forrigners kick your ass over and over - dont pretend you havent goten used to it.

          we all know perfectly well whats gonna hapen once that bell chimes..

          hey, get happy..

          learn to love the big machines, you little people.

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            #25
            Originally posted by sisforshaq
            Not a big Ruiz fan, but i agree with pretender that that giant shouldbt be there. Also they should stop all of this and let Ruiz fight Brewster or any other champion in the divsion. Get these titles unified please.
            Yo incase you didint read Brewster will fight the winner of Klitschko Rahman-Barret and as for Valuev he deserves a shot more then anyother bum out there, Valuev will rip this pieace of **** Ruiz up....

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              #26
              Valuev is Ivan Drago from Rocky with the looks of Shrek. Its similar to the movie, he beats on bums (Clifford E) but eventually he gets it all back to him and whether it be John Ruiz or any other heavyweight in the division, this giant will fall and only be remebered as the biggest heavyweight ever.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TheKnifeManconi
                valuev has what it takes to get a ko, or a UD, but the ****ty european rules allow him to hit behind the head and etc,i see him losing many points on these things maybe even a possible dq.although hes probably training and making a point not to do them,instictual habits arent that easy to break.
                Go get your face sandblasted, you zitty ****.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  I picked Ruiz to win by UD. Valuev has a good chin. Ruiz is not going to be able stop him and that wont be his game plan. But I just think Ruiz will land the cleaner harder punches througout the fight and too savy to leave himself open to taking one of Valuev's big punches in the early rounds. I expect Valuev to tire by the 6th round at the latest and Ruiz to pretty much dominate after 6 round and land alot of clean scoring shots. But it is no small possiblity that Valuev could land himself an early KO, cathing John coming to grappe or something. Alot on this fight depends on who the ref is. One thing about this fight is Ruiz grappling tactics wont really work to his advantage against Valuev.
                  Yeah, I agree. Ruiz will definately have to fight a disiplined fight to avoid those jabs and rights, if Valuev could even land like 6 or 8 jabs in a row, that might discourage Ruiz, but I still don't see how he's going to do even that.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by neils7147933
                    Have you never seen this unskilled giant in the ring?
                    I agree that his skills are far from ideal today, but I hope you will say the same words about Klitchkos, Golota, Whitaker and McCline.
                    Originally posted by TheKnifeManconi
                    valuev has what it takes to get a ko, or a UD, but the ****ty european rules allow him to hit behind the head and etc,i see him losing many points on these things maybe even a possible dq.although hes probably training and making a point not to do them,instictual habits arent that easy to break.
                    I guess Tszyu demolished Ahmet Santos in the US. He did the KO by the shot behind the head. And NO ONE said it was wrong. You should look better at these moments. Niko didn’t do anything criminal. Cliff showed him the backside of his head many times - it’s a forbidden thing.
                    Last edited by Diricul; 06-01-2005, 11:21 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ThaGreatest
                      Ruiz will find a way to win..
                      Not with Valuev. John hasn’t big punch, hasn’t enough energy to move like Etienne.
                      Originally posted by elveiel
                      if he was a smaller
                      He would be other and has other aces.
                      Originally posted by neils7147933
                      I've seen him fight Dominguez, Nobles, Levin, Etienne - and I still think anyone that can move could pull out a UD over him.
                      There is a reason in your words. But it’s not as big as Nik Tell me please who can move in this division today? It’s Rahman (when he’s shaped), it’s Brewster, it’s Tua with Tyson if they haven’t lost their skills. These men have chances. But who else?
                      Originally posted by neils7147933
                      I picked Ruiz by DQ since Valuev's last 2 fights would have been DQ losses if they took place in the States. The Etienne fight for sure.
                      What are you talking about? What did Nik do that deserves DQ?
                      Originally posted by The Pretender
                      The better question is how the **** did this clumsy 7 foot sack of potatoes become #1 contender?
                      Why not? How should John get it?
                      Originally posted by as214
                      Ruiz has perfected his style of fighting.. It will be very difficult for a bigger man to beat him!!
                      John is a great warrior but he never met opponents like Nik. The clinches with Valuev require much energy. John hasn’t it.
                      Last edited by Diricul; 06-01-2005, 11:19 AM.

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