Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Says: "I Will Crush Mayweather, Knock Him Out"

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Mayweather haters will never give him his credit. After he beat dela hoya they said well he should have fought Cotto (Cotto gets destroyed by Margorito), after he beat Hatton they said well he should have fought Margorito (Margorito gets destroyed by Shane), after he beat Marquez they said it should have been Pac. When tried to make the fight with Pac they said it should have been Mosley. Pac refuses to take the test thus causing the fight to fall apart he signs to fight Mosley so now haters are claiming mosley is too old and Floyd should fight Pac because Pac will crush him and knock him out. Well guess what all Pac had to do was sign the contract and take the test. No need to talk **** now that the fight is off. Where was this talk when Mayweather extended himself more he has to anyone in negotiations? Even when arum left the negotiation table Mayweather was still trying to negotiate a fight with them.

This WHOLE post is very true. I endorse this post wholeheartedly.

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Sounds like Manny will enter the ring with Mayweather Jr agry.Not a good thing.Roach said he had never heard Manny talk like this before about another fighter.Floyds in Manny's head for sure.

sure thing!! PAC is in floyds head too.. why???? cuz he is soooo scared he thinks PAC is on to something....

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

How many times has Manny Pacquiao come in over the limit
in his fights? ALOT! Floyd came in 2 pounds over weight with
Marquez because he is now a full fledge WW so he came in at
146 not 144, so what. The fight with Pacquiao was supposed to
be at 147. when has Floyd EVER come in over the WW limit?
The answer is NEVER! How come Pac was so concerned with
Floyd coming in over the 147LB limit when he is now fighting
Joshua Clottey who is physically bigger than Mayweather? Did
he put that stipulation in the contract with Clottey? No offense
but only a blind moron would believe that Manny wanted to
fight Floyd this weekend because if he did, Manny would have
taken the tests and got in the ring with Floyd and showed the
world who the best was. All the evidence of Freddie Roach's
doubts, facts and lies are on video or written and I have been
posting them along with others but Pacquiao fans keep disregarding
these facts because of not liking Floyd Mayweather Jr BUT why
shy away from the truth? It is what it is and that is, Manny did not
want to fight Flyod Mayweather Jr....... PERIOD.

Grust. STOP. They will not listen to you. I was trying to have a very logical conversation last night about the "additional" testing methods and kept running into bull**** resistance as far as the acceptance of FACTS. Unless they are a "real" boxing fan your posts will fall on blind eyes in here.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

I will address a post of this nature only once.

oh but floyds crackheaded daddy and big unc arnt by saying he's on a military drug that bullets can't even stop? Lol man I be seein the biggest hypocrites on this site.

Ok. I will address a post of this nature only once. I dont respond to the whole *****, *******, Gayweather, crackhead ****. Address these individuals by name or I wont answer any question that is posed to me. Now on to your question.

I never said that I agree with Roger or Floyd Sr.'s views in regards to what Manny "may" be on. As far as I'm concerned, since Manny has not tested positive it would be foolish to flat out say "Manny's on steroids or A-typical Meth, or any other "designer drug". I do reserve the right to formulate my own opinion on the matter, which I have. I DO think something is not right in that camp and it starts with Ariza. I think Freddie has found himself in the middle of some BS that he did not want to be in and is just rolling with it the best he can because his livelyhood is at stake. I truely believe that , but it is MY opinion.

[v.cassiusali@ya]

i agree 100%. pacquiao will knock chicken floyd out. that's the reason why chicken floyd is so scared to fight pac. none other than that.

[Carpe Diem]

December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are downgrading blood testing in general.

The Mayweather fight is the fight the world wants to see,” Roach said. “It’s going to be the biggest pay-per-view fight of all time. But I think we will fight one fight before that.”

Roach said that Pacquiao’s schedule will be constructed around his political ambitions and the elections in the Philippines on May 10. “But there is a March date for him to fight,” Roach said. “People think I am crazy but I want him to win his eighth title against Yuri Foreman at 154lb. That’s my idea — then fight Mayweather in September. And then retire.”

The way Roach sees it, there will be no further blemishes on Pacquiao’s record by the time he greets retirement, although he does concede that Mayweather will be “the hardest fight of his life”.


“Mayweather’s a very difficult fight for Manny,” he said. “It won’t be physically the hardest, but it will be the hardest fight of his life style-wise. Mayweather is talented and he’s good at defence. I have a very good game plan for him, but I’m sure a lot of other guys thought that along the way.

“We’ll have a ten-week training camp. We have to work on a lot of new moves, we have to improve in certain areas to win that fight.” And would he expect his man to win? “Oh yes. Without a doubt.”



Why would he even contemplated about a tune up fight before even fighting Floyd? When you really spin this whole thing, and connect all the pieces of their stories, they are more to blame than the Mayweather's team. Biased analysts such as, Michael Wilbon, Brian Kenny, and Dan Rafael won't see it that way because they rather hate on Floyd, then care about making the Sport of boxing cleaner and safer.

"If they give me a 5-day window or something like that I have no problem with it," Roach said. "When they've drawn blood from Manny in the past he feels weaker for three or four days. It may be mental, but it's there."



Again, why would any athletes refuses to be testing randomly unless they have something to hide?

Why would an athlete walk away from the biggest payday in his professional career just because he thinks a blood test will weakens him 2-4 days before a fight?


Is the 14 days cut-off not enough time to recover from a teaspoon of blood?

There are more Pacquiao worshippers out there who will blame Floyd for whatever reason without any actual facts to make their arguments valid. The 14 days cut-off is just as useless as the 24 days or 30 days, or even 2-4 days for that matter, but Floyd offered it anyway just to prove that he wants the fight to happen.

There can be so many questions that can be asks from both side.

For instance:

Why would Floyd asked for that type of testing procedure if it has never being asked before?


Why would he asked it now when he didn't do so for his past fights?


Why would Manny Pacquiao take that kind of test if he has never been tested positive before?



We can spin it anyway we want, but Both sides are to blames for this whole thing, but it's seems that people are siding more with Pacquiao because he's the good guy and the face of the sport, but rather then wanting the sport that they loves to be safer and cleaner. I guess people cared less about their money. If i was paying $60-70 dollars for every PPV fights, i would want each of those fighters to be 100% clean for my money.


Major Props to Dominicano Soy. All the pieces are there to see who really wanted the fight from the start, and who didn't.

[Pullcounter]

Then take the test.

i didn't know there was a test for a-side meth.

[Pullcounter]

sure thing!! PAC is in floyds head too.. why???? cuz he is soooo scared he thinks PAC is on to something....

also floyd has to think about the lawsuit.

[Marciano90s]

He stopped 2 very cleverly picked welters and a TKO is still a KO. Lifting weights dont strengthen your jaw and Manny doesn't have a body builders physique. How many fighters do you know in the history of boxing went from 130 to 147 after 50 tough fights, coming into the twilight of their career, all of a sudden start KOing world class champions at higher weights? The answer is none and if Manny was one of them Oscar Larios coming off a KO loss wouldn't have went the distance with him @130. PED!!!!!!!!!!!

from 130-147...even oscar did that.look on boxingrec it helps you when u want place your statment.
dude a tko is not a ko.if the ref sees your taking a bad punishment so he will stop it and its called "tko".your post is tot *** up,because manny fought only 3 times at 140-145.he stopped hoya,but he didnt tko or ko him,his corner stopped him.he knocked hatton,whats wrong with knockin down hatton?ALSO PBF KNOCKED DOWN HATTON,WAS HE SO PED?he was wide open and took a devastating left hook right in the chin by both manny and pbf.then he fought cotto and the ref stopped him at 12rd.so what did he do of so fishy to think he took ped?oscar tkoed izzly in first fight and got tkoed in the rematch..so what?he didnt look shot or whatever,that does not mean that if he gets stopped you will be **** for the rest of your life...indeed that didnt happen cuz larios fought like a warrior against pac if you seen the fight.
you guys should stop saying pac is on ped....its boxing all can happen with 1 only punch who box knows that.
anyway if you think im wrong feel free to insult me!lmao

[Marciano90s]

i agree 100%. pacquiao will knock chicken floyd out. that's the reason why chicken floyd is so scared to fight pac. none other than that.

floyd addmitted it..he didnt say he was scared and he is not.he saids if he will ever get koed atleast he wants get koed by someone that is "clean".