Unbiased Mom On Pacquiao: "Guilty As Hell"

[Rabbit ♠]

Oh, and don't waste your time with the mom insults or "you're a newbie" nonsense. Either share your experiences or don't bother replying.

Your mother sucks cocks in hell.

[Akinapepemo]

yea believe it or not the casual fan does think hes guilty i kno my uncle who hates mayweather cuz of the way he fights and really likes pac was telling me the other day that after this whole thing he aint a fan of pac no more cuz he dont wanna take the tests ...bottomline thats what people care about not that oo well its not in the rules its that he refused random drug tests

Wrong. he agreed to random drug tests.

Unlimited urine checks too. It was the cut-off date that he turned down.

Since when did Floyd become the regulating body of boxing? I would believe he really means it that he wants to clean up boxing if made moves to make it mandatory for the sport, but no, he only brings it up for pacquiao, and i doubt that he will demand it from any other fighter.

[el malo]

funny i broke down this whole mess to my sister earlier. she read that pac will fight clottey on yahoo and told me even though i already knew. she watches boxing but doesnt follow it day to day like i do and after breaking it down to her she said "why is pac acting ******, he is only making himself look bad". lol

[..WaRSpencE..]

My dad is a HUGE boxing fan..and has been watching boxing since the golden ages..(he's 67) and he made a few comments about Pacquiao after his KO over Ricky Hatton..


He's also a big Miguel Cotto fan..and was anxious to see if Manny looked incredible as he did against Hatton..and sure enough..he did..not a devestating KO but his ability to hurt and KD the man who was only "controversially" knocked down once before when pulled down by Torres..

We all understand that his hand speed and angles had a lot to do with it..but he kept saying that they're giving him something..because it doesn't look natural..and he also mentioned Manny's head and how it's grown a lot!..and he knows those are signs of steroids..

so he laughed when he saw it on the news that Mayweather wanted the tests and said "see..I'm not the only one who noticed it." even tho I thought my dad was nuts when he first said it..it did look a little odd..but thought maybe Pacquiao is just that great!..

but when I saw the excuses coming out of the mouths of Team Pacquiao...it certainly raised question..and my dad told me a quote in spanish that made me believe that Pacquiao is definitely on something...and that was "El que nada debe, Nada teme" and it seems to go perfect with the situation..

[Foodie One]

My dad is a HUGE boxing fan..and has been watching boxing since the golden ages..(he's 67) and he made a few comments about Pacquiao after his KO over Ricky Hatton..


He's also a big Miguel Cotto fan..and was anxious to see if Manny looked incredible as he did against Hatton..and sure enough..he did..not a devestating KO but his ability to hurt and KD the man who was only "controversially" knocked down once before when pulled down by Torres..

We all understand that his hand speed and angles had a lot to do with it..but he kept saying that they're giving him something..because it doesn't look natural..and he also mentioned Manny's head and how it's grown a lot!..and he knows those are signs of steroids..

so he laughed when he saw it on the news that Mayweather wanted the tests and said "see..I'm not the only one who noticed it." even tho I thought my dad was nuts when he first said it..it did look a little odd..but thought maybe Pacquiao is just that great!..

but when I saw the excuses coming out of the mouths of Team Pacquiao...it certainly raised question..and my dad told me a quote in spanish that made me believe that Pacquiao is definitely on something...and that was "El que nada debe, Nada teme" and it seems to go perfect with the situation..

Wow, just wow. I've heard it all now. Just look funny to someone and you're guilty to the hilt. Is a person with a longer arm or leg than the other guilty of being on steroids as well? What you are saying is that you and your dad will believe that any body part that is seemingly disproportionate to the rest of the body is a guaranteed indication that the person in question is on steroids? OMG. What next?

[..WaRSpencE..]

Wow, just wow. I've heard it all now. Just look funny to someone and you're guilty to the hilt. Is a person with a longer arm or leg than the other guilty of being on steroids as well? What you are saying is that you and your dad will believe that any body part that is seemingly disproportionate to the rest of the body is a guaranteed indication that the person in question is on steroids? OMG. What next?

Lady Stan..there you are!..

I mentioned what my dad stated..before there were any speculations in the media..and since it was Barry Bonds' head which was mentioned in the media to have noticeably grown a lot due to his use of HGH..that's before anyone else ever mentioned anything about Pacquiao..and thought that was a funny observation..and when I look at his previous pics in smaller weight classes..his body to head ratio looked pretty normal..more proportionate than now atleast..but by no means do we believe that means he's guilty..

but Lady Stan wouldn't get it since it's not a ****riding comment about Manny "the god" Pacquiao..

[Jose Rizal]

EDIT: ***Let me clarify one thing. Seems that Jack D Ripper just couldn't hold back his idiotic impulses. My mom doesn't know a DAMN thing about boxing or Mayweather and Pacquio even are. So if that isn't unbiased enough for you, then I don't know what to tell you**

I know I'm about to catch a lot of heat from the Pac Stans/ Floyd haters, but I wanted to get an unbiased opinion on this whole situation, and there was no better person to ask than my mother. So I called her up and broke down the whole situation to her. So here is what I broke down for her:

1. Mayweather/Pacquiao - biggest fight out there; both stand to make about 40 million dollars that night.

2. Mayweather camp is su****ious of Pacquiao's rise in weight classes and domination of bigger fighters.

3. Mayweather requested that they both undergo Olympic style blood testing that is NOT required by the commission.

4. Pacquiao's camp has been making a big fuss about the whole drug testing issue.

5. Pacquiao's camp has been making contradictory statements, such as "we'll take any test in the world" "5 day window is good" "pacquiao is superstitious" etc, etc, etc..

6. Ariza claimed that Pacquiao doesn't know what he's taking.

7. Pacquiao was willing to take a test after the press conference, 30 days before the fight, and after the fight.

8. Pacquiao's final offer was a 24 day window.

9. Pacquiao appears to have officially rejected Mayweather's 14 day window offer and accepted another fight, thus throwing away 40 million dollars.

After explaining all of that to her, I asked her how she thought that made Pacquiao look. Her response was "guilty as hell!" She went on to explain how anyone with nothing to hide would stick out their arm and say "here, take the blood".

Anyway, the point of this thread was not to say, "see, Pacquiao is guilty because my mom said so". I just want to know how many of you have asked completely unbiased people about their take on this whole situation. I believe Teddy Atlas is right and that your average person who has no emotional attachment to either fighter is going to be really su****ious of Pacquiao.

So, have any of you asked non-fans what they thought about the whole situation? If so, what were their responses?

Oh, and don't waste your time with the mom insults or "you're a newbie" nonsense. Either share your experiences or don't bother replying.

Your mommy's a crack whore, has always been a crack whore and will forever remain a crack whore for life until she comes up with test results to prove otherwise.

[Foodie One]

Lady Stan..there you are!..

I mentioned what my dad stated..before there were any speculations in the media..and since it was Barry Bonds' head which was mentioned in the media to have noticeably grown a lot due to his use of HGH..that's before anyone else ever mentioned anything about Pacquiao..and thought that was a funny observation..and when I look at his previous pics in smaller weight classes..his body to head ratio looked pretty normal..more proportionate than now atleast..but by no means do we believe that means he's guilty..

but Lady Stan wouldn't get it since it's not a ****riding comment about Manny "the god" Pacquiao..

Hope you can clearly see that what you've said is fallacy and is not a "Good" Medical assessment by any means. It goes to prove that people fall victim to speculation all the time and guess what? You're a victim.

[..WaRSpencE..]

Hope you can clearly see that what you've said is fallacy and is not a "Good" Medical assessment by any means. It goes to prove that people fall victim to speculation all the time and guess what? You're a victim.

I don't have a Ph.D so I never mentioned making any medical assessments..just a BOXING fans observations..you wouldn't know anything about that since you more than likely only know of Pacquiao and his opponents..and maybe Nonito Donaire's GREAT KO over Darchinyan right?..lol...fall back ******..

[Foodie One]

I don't have a Ph.D so I never mentioned making any medical assessments..just a BOXING fans observations..you wouldn't know anything about that since you more than likely only know of Pacquiao and his opponents..and maybe Nonito Donaire's GREAT KO over Darchinyan right?..lol...fall back ******..

Just to let you know, your "Boxing Fan Observations" are flawed. It's quite apparent that you subscribe to the "Speculation Network" here at Boxingscene. You're trying to substantiate fallacy and turn it into fact. Wrong. Oh well, speculation has claimed yet another victim and it's you.