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    #31
    Originally posted by xcaret v2 View Post
    did they win 7 titles?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    I must say, that was really funny...


    So a boxer who gained 30 lbs in 15 years and won 7 titles is automatically a steroid user?

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      #32
      Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
      its pointless talking boxing history & sense to them. it doesnt compute. just look at easywork's reply when you tried to talk rational & present your case with actual boxing facts. he couldnt handle it. that mayweather mafia alt is another one.

      he couldnt name another great asian fighter other than pac if his life depended on him.
      Do you understand that by making all these threads you only prove the point that he should just take the tests since hes clean. He'll pas with flying colors. right?

      What is the point of these threads?

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        #33
        Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
        because you dont know **** about boxing that's why.
        whoa...why are you being confrontational....i know exactly what he was saying....

        I said it looked like gibberish to the Pac Stan...

        relax champ...

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          #34
          Originally posted by Easy Work View Post
          so basically the 7 division thing is blown up?
          It is blown up when you mention that as a reason to put him with the likes of Langford, Greb, Armstrong, B. Leonard, Fitzsimmons, and SRR. When you try to say he is as a great as them cuz he 7 titles in 7 divisions. Then yes is blown up cuz they didn't have a chance to do it. It was impossible.

          But, when you try to rank him with the great fighters from the 1970's to all the to now. Is not blown up. Because, those fighters all had this divisions. They all had more than 1 belt. So is not blown up in a sense if it was so easy somebody would of done it by now... Since all these divisions and belts nobody has done. And, nobody else is even close to do it.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Aldo-Raine View Post
            Half the drugs and tests didint even exist back then....lol.

            All you guysare doing is proving why pac should tajke the tests,,,,i mean hes clean right?..Great take the tests sign the contract.

            Originally posted by Aldo-Raine View Post
            Do you understand that by making all these threads you only prove the point that he should just take the tests since hes clean. He'll pas with flying colors. right?

            What is the point of these threads?
            Well you can look at it that way... It all depends what side you are on... Everybody should look at both sides at the argument. And, both point of views. Is not just black and white. There is shades of gray.
            Last edited by jrosales13; 12-30-2009, 12:42 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
              its pointless talking boxing history & sense to them. it doesnt compute. just look at easywork's reply when you tried to talk rational & present your case with actual boxing facts. he couldnt handle it. that mayweather mafia alt is another one.

              he couldnt name another great asian fighter other than pac if his life depended on him.
              go back and read what you replied too.....you will clearly see what i typed was....

              "WHOOOAAAAAAAAAA relax JR....he cant handle all of that information.........

              what you just typed looked like this to HIM.................."

              how on earth does that equate to ME not being able to compute the informations??

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                #37
                Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                It is blown up when you mention that as a reason to put him with the likes of Langford, Greb, Armstrong, B. Leonard, Fitzsimmons, and SRR. When you try to say he is as a great as them cuz he 7 titles in 7 divisions. Then yes is blown up cuz they didn't have a chance to do it. It was impossible.

                But, when you try to rank him with the great fighters from the 1970's to all the to now. Is not blown up. Because, those fighters all had this divisions. They all had more than 1 belt. So is not blown up in a sense if it was so easy somebody would of done it by now... Since all these divisions and belts nobody has done. And, nobody else is even close to do it.
                History will prove that winning belts at higher weight classes is cute, but doing it aginst subpar competition means nothing.

                And that goes for Pac and Floyd.

                No one will forget Floyd beat Baldimir....

                No one will forget Pac beat a damaged Cotto....

                No one will forget he beat a weight drained Oscar who havent fought at 147 in 11 years.

                No one will forget David Diaz was not the best 135 Pounder.

                No one will forget that Hatton was already KO'd and destroyed by Mayweather.

                No one will forget that Pac instead of fighting Bradley...wanst Malignagii.

                No one will forget that instead of Martinez....Pac wants Foreman.

                So spare me that higher weight class ****.
                Last edited by Go Blue; 12-30-2009, 12:44 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  It is blown up when you mention that as a reason to put him with the likes of Langford, Greb, Armstrong, B. Leonard, Fitzsimmons, and SRR. When you try to say he is as a great as them cuz he 7 titles in 7 divisions. Then yes is blown up cuz they didn't have a chance to do it. It was impossible.

                  But, when you try to rank him with the great fighters from the 1970's to all the to now. Is not blown up. Because, those fighters all had this divisions. They all had more than 1 belt. So is not blown up in a sense if it was so easy somebody would of done it by now... Since all these divisions and belts nobody has done. And, nobody else is even close to do it.
                  I agree..................I think the division thing is blown up these days!!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Aldo-Raine View Post
                    Side Effects of HGH

                    Use of HGH under medical supervision for HGH deficiency is safe and will have few side effects. The risk of side effects increase when HGH is taken in higher doses without any medical supervision.

                    The most common side effect of the excess use of HGH is acromegaly. This is a medical condition that begins with the overgrowth of facial bone and connective tissue, leading to a changed appearance due to protruding jaw and eyebrow bones. This condition also leads to an abnormal growth of the hands ,head and feet.

                    Here you go bud.
                    first of all link or GTFO.

                    second of all, there is no conclusive set of tests that has shown positive effects of hgh. All benefits are conjecture & unproven including side effects.

                    3rd of all, there is no evidence of pac using steriods.

                    Originally posted by Aldo-Raine View Post
                    Roach said it himself....

                    Manny was a scrawny, bony, weak frail boxer.

                    Now look at him.

                    Roach said pac was malnourished as a child & never had the money & capability to eat well, properly, & hire a nutritionist. He started boxing professionally at age 16.

                    He's 30 years old now. His body has filled out. & when he started getting support & money he started eating well & was able to do get proper training.

                    16 years old to 30 years old is a huge gap that covers prepubescent physique to a grown man's physique.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Aldo-Raine View Post
                      History will prove that winning belts at higher weight classes is cute, but doping it aginst subpar competition means nothing.

                      And that goes for Pac and Floyd.

                      No one will forget Floyd beat Baldimir....

                      No one will forget Pac beat a damaged Cotto....

                      No one will forget he beat a weight drained Oscar who havent fought at 147 in 11 years.

                      No one will forget David Diaz was not the best 135 Pounder.

                      No one will forget that Hatton was already KO'd and destroyed by Mayweather.

                      No one will forget that Pac instead of fighting Bradley...wanst Malignagii.

                      No one will forget that instead of Martinez....Pac wants Foreman.

                      So spare me that higher weight class ****.
                      Who is to say though bro? And, is obvious you have an agenda against Pac, you will not give no credit and that is fine if that is the way you feel. But, what he is doing we haven't seen since maybe Duran? I mean he is getting his credit right now. You can try to bash it all you want. But, is not working cuz he is getting credit. And, if you really believe that in 50yrs when people look at Pac and talk about the history of boxing they will not mention Pac or talk about great stuff he has achieved then you are highly mistaken bro...
                      Last edited by jrosales13; 12-30-2009, 01:09 AM.

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