Comments Thread For: Mayweather, Golden Boy Hit Back at Pacquiao/Top Rank

[Championart]

I think that sounds fair.

I think that the Pacquiao camp really felt the pressure of having to face Mayweather too soon and without the plan to fight him before the elections. The Mayweather camp, however sees this as a opportunity to "coerce" Pacquiao into a mental game.

I firmly believe that Pacquiao and Roach wanted to fight Mayweather by around May or September.

If that is the case, I think so too because:

• Pacquiao really wanted to "rest" after the Cotto fight
• Train for the fight of his career
• Can concentrate better after the elections (win or lose)
• More promotional time for both Top Rank and GBP

Why must it be by March? Because of Mayweather's demands?

Again, this doesn't mean that Pacquiao didn't want to fight Mayweather but an issue of timing.

Thus all of these, are the backdrop of Mayweather's demands of pressuring Pacquiao into a random blood testing.

It would be smarter for Pacquiao to delay the fight until he is ready rather than risk a lost to Mayweather.

In that light, what's wrong with either May or September instead of everybody rushing them into March 13?

Correction that was Pac and his team that requested the fight be done in March all Mayweather is guilty of is agreeing to do it like they wanted. Now continue...

[switchsouthpaw]

I agree. Declining does not mean he is on PED's. More and more im starting to think he isn't and he just really does not want to fight Floyd and is looking for a way out. Or maybe he just feels he needs a tune up before floyd. That would be fine too. Lord knows Floyd is the fighter that has been relatively inactive.....he would benefit much more from a tune up than Manny.

Did Sugar Ray Leonard take a tuneup after coming out of his first of many retirements? You remember who he fought?

Besides May already had his tuneup he doesn't need another one, his whole five years at welterweight has been one long tuneup.

[jetgeomcx]

When the rumors started flying about the claims Arum publicly made of Manny's needle phobia, where was Manny and his advisors publicly stating the opposite? Why didn't they immediately come out and correct Arum's false assumptions rather than let them grow bigger and bigger for the whole world to start spreading?

Where's Manny's written or videotaped statement saying Arum was wrong?

Can you answer that?

there is no need for manny to categorically state that he is not afraid of any needle.
his tattoos can easily prove that.
the blood sampling during the hatton fyt proved it!!
i just don't know why people, especially haters and jealous people, ride on that issue.
can't you make your own analysis and conclusion rather than buy all that comes out of arums mouth??
don't you know arum by now??
it was just a slip of the tongue on the part of arum......
or spur of the moment comment that was quoted.
again, manny need not rebut arum's slip....for me at least.
i can do my own analyses and conclusions !!

[spinika7]

I think that sounds fair.

I think that the Pacquiao camp really felt the pressure of having to face Mayweather too soon and without the plan to fight him before the elections. The Mayweather camp, however sees this as a opportunity to "coerce" Pacquiao into a mental game.

I firmly believe that Pacquiao and Roach wanted to fight Mayweather by around May or September.

If that is the case, I think so too because:

?Pacquiao really wanted to "rest" after the Cotto fight
?Train for the fight of his career
?Can concentrate better after the elections (win or lose)
?More promotional time for both Top Rank and GBP

Why must it be by March? Because of Mayweather's demands?

Again, this doesn't mean that Pacquiao didn't want to fight Mayweather but an issue of timing.

Thus all of these, are the backdrop of Mayweather's demands of pressuring Pacquiao into a random blood testing.

It would be smarter for Pacquiao to delay the fight until he is ready rather than risk a lost to Mayweather.

In that light, what's wrong with either May or September instead of everybody rushing them into March 13?

Well May 5th was the initial date put forward, to coincide with Cinco de Mayo. This date was rejected by Manny because of his intention to put himself in the race for a congressional seat in the Phillipines around this time. A March 13th date was put forward (i believe by both promoters...corrections anyone if i am wrong) and was agreed upon by both camps. So timing is not the issue.....unless they have changed their mind.....which would be ok aswell if they were straight forward and just came out with it.

[spinika7]

Well May 5th was the initial date put forward, to coincide with Cinco de Mayo. This date was rejected by Manny because of his intention to put himself in the race for a congressional seat in the Phillipines around this time. A March 13th date was put forward (i believe by both promoters...corrections anyone if i am wrong) and was agreed upon by both camps. So timing is not the issue.....unless they have changed their mind.....which would be ok aswell if they were straight forward and just came out with it.

I apologise to the Mexican fans on this thread as they no doubt are aware Cinco de Mayo literally means 5th of May in Spanish.

[fightingfigs]

Golden Boy admits Pacquiao took a blood test two weeks before he crippled Hatton - AND HE TESTED CLEAN.

yes but against cotto he looked much more devestating,

[rasheedcat]

The Golden Boys and Mayweathers are the best entertainment misfortune could afford.
Drop the pretense like boxing is about doing the honorable thing and all such mumbo jumbo crap. It is war where a Geneva Convention only exists to not make it all look so bad. It’s more like ancient Rome’s gladiator combat with a Christian name. And just like the olden times, the people crave for blood.
And it’s not the one Mayweather had in mind.
We’ve asked for boxing and it’s a circus we’re getting. Blood Feud, Blood letting, Bad Blood ?more like Bloody Mess - call it what you may but this fight might not just happen.
And contrary to what GBP and Mayweather Promotion has to say, it’s all thank to them.

[bellagio510ak]

WRONG WRONG WRONG. the NSAC didn't control the split nor did they control the 10 million dollar weight penalty that mayweather *ONLY* would receive if overweight. the NSAC didn't control the ring size or glove size. ALL of that was negotiated and went into Manny's favor.

so to say that it's up to the NSAC when mayweather finally says he WANTS something (a blood test) is completly UNACCEPTABLE.

it's not about pride or believing that mayweather is arrogant. they KNEW that mayweather was gonna demand a blood test before he even asked because freddy roach BOASTED that they would take ANY blood test known to MAN (in a pathetic attempt to stop mayweather from actually asking for it)

the needle excuse has been DEBUNKED. the superstition of giving blood 30 days before a fight will some how weaken manny has been DEBUNKED. (manny gave blood 14 days before the ricky hatton bout and made QUICK work of him)

the pac team has done EVERYTHING in their power to avoid these RANDOM test.

there is NOTHING LEFT but to realize the realty of the situation and not some ******* micky mouse play land.

this is SERIOUS STUFF and it leads me to believe that theres no doubt that the pac team is hiding something EXTREMELY serious.

great post..all the excuses have been debunked so what other excuse errr reason can they come up with??? the logic behind these people backing manny's team on his position to not be "randomly" tested is laughable..and very sad...

[GRUSTLER]

Manny Pacquiao played right into Team Mayweather's hands.
Even Freddie Roach and Ariza are quiet as church mice for
the first time in a long time. The more Manny refuses the
more he damages himself. Why doesn't he want to take
the damn blood tests? 40MIL plus the chance to be the
official P4P in the Sport of Boxing? What is the hesitation
for? Because he feels disrespected? Come on man! Floyd
agreed to take it too! Not like their only asking Manny.

[bellagio510ak]

As If Pac didn't think 10mil penalty wasn't going to be a "DEAL-ENDER"? Bad logic.

How would one know that by asking Pac to take a random blood/drug test cause it to be a DEAL BREAKER??? That makes no sense. Asking for a random drug test in the contract is NO different than asking for Gloves sizes, ring sizes, location, money split, PPV rights etc. Its a contract, they can request what ever they want for this kind of money.

What people don't understand is that all they are doing is requesting, not accusing. Why is this hard to understand? Its no different than asking Mayweather to Pay a large unheard of fine for going over weight. Its a contract agreement that Mayweather accepted. Why cant Pac do the same without getting so sensitive?

Its nothing more than a blood test that MANY athletes get. What is Pac's REAL reason for not wanting to take it? Pride is not the answer, scared of needles is not the answer, and a phobia is not the answer. For 50+ million nothing is an answer unless your hiding something which in the end would jeopardize the money and his career/legacy if busted.

You and many others fail to rationalize this just BECAUSE Mayweather's name is involved. Its not that hard to understand. This was supposed to be the biggest fight in the history of the sport and now its going to be ruined because Pac doesn't want to give blood? His die-hard ******ed fans are now turning there back on the fight because of this????

If the shoe was on the other foot this would be an out rage......

just the plain and simple truth..couldnt have said it better myself..