If Pacquiao chases Floyd around the ring does that play into Floyds style of boxing?

[pugay_kamay]

Zab Judah made Floyd come foward by beating Floyd to the punch early on. But since Mayweather saw how annoyed Pacquiao was with Cotto's movements, I see Mayweather boxing and then coming foward around the 7th or 8th round.

I don't think Pacman would be annoyed by Mayweather if he does this thing, coz Pacman knows the fact the Floyd will not initiate. Unlike the case of Cotto, Pac knows that Cotto wants to trade punches, and I think the reason for not chasing Cotto is that he is not annoyed but rather a question of Is this guy still want to fight? And the fact that Pac knows he is way ahead in the scorecards.

[S.G.]

You can say that Pacquiao will be inexperienced cutting off the ring; as we saw against Cotto...because most of Pacquiao's opponents didn't move.

Maybe, but he's got a while to train. And I didn't exactly mean pressure Floyd like Chavez Snr would or something; but to do it in his bouncey, in-and-out style. As long as he's not just retracing Floyd's footsteps and is imposing some angles he could have success due to his dynamic attack and unpredictable punching.

Pacquiao would have most success trading in the centre of the ring but of course Mayweather would seldom allow that to happen, so if Pacquiao is too hesitant and stand-off-ish Mayweather will outbox him. There's no way Pacquiao beats him at his own game.

[S A M U R A I]

There's no way Pacquiao beats him at his own game.

People always say that. Look at the Cotto fight. If I'd said Manny will walk through his punches and laugh off his best shots, you would probably said I'm a dumbass, because the big question before the fight was how will he react when getting punched by a full-blown WW. People said he can't afford to trade with Cotto. I said you're wrong, and if Cotto trades with Manny he will come off much worse because Cotto will always be beaten to the punch by the faster fighter. People said Cotto is superior boxer. No he isn't. He beat Cotto at his own game. Some people still think the guy can't counter-punch and can't fight going backwards, too. Now some are saying he's inexperienced in cutting off a ring? Please.

Manny does something to surprise me in every single fight I can think of. I would not be surprised if he makes Floyd look ******. Honestly.



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[S.G.]

People always say that. Look at the Cotto fight. If I'd said Manny will walk through his punches and laugh off his best shots, you would probably said I'm a dumbass, because the big question before the fight was how will he react when getting punched by a full-blown WW. People said he can't afford to trade with Cotto. I said you're wrong, and if Cotto trades with Manny he will come off much worse because Cotto will always be beaten to the punch by the faster fighter. People said Cotto is superior boxer. No he isn't. He beat Cotto at his own game. Some people still think the guy can't counter-punch and can't fight going backwards, too. Now some are saying he's inexperienced in cutting off a ring? Please.

Manny does something to surprise me in every single fight I can think of. I would not be surprised if he makes Floyd look ******. Honestly.

Mayweather's a slightly different kettle of fish though. Not only is he significantly better than Manny's recent opponents but he poses a very different kind of puzzle to solve.

A large portion of Pacquiao naysayers in the lead up to that fight's reasoning was purely size related. I think now we have all realised that size can be disregarded, and if anything can call Pacquiao the more hardy boxer of the two, and call this one based on ability and styles. Pacquiao's going to have to do more than out-tough and brutalise this opponent, he has to out-think him. If he's to play the defensive game he is going to have to restrict his output drastically or leave himself wide open to counters. And a Pacquiao with a neutered offense is not Pacquiao at all.

Pacquiao trying to play Mayweather's game completely contradicts all of his advantages and I'm fairly certain Roach won't send him out to do that. The reasoning that Pacquiao's offense won't work against Mayweather because other boxers' offenses haven't worked against Mayweather in the past is a bit silly because Pacquiao's offense more or less completely unique to himself - and in my opinion actually has a lot of factors that will make Floyd uncomfortable in there, like his southpaw stance, handspeed and hard to predict angles.

[dyu]

Pacquiao trying to play Mayweather's game completely contradicts all of his advantages and I'm fairly certain Roach won't send him out to do that. The reasoning that Pacquiao's offense won't work against Mayweather because other boxers' offenses haven't worked against Mayweather in the past is a bit silly because Pacquiao's offense more or less completely unique to himself - and in my opinion actually has a lot of factors that will make Floyd uncomfortable in there, like his southpaw stance, handspeed and hard to predict angles.

Yea I agree.
Its going to be a chess match!
Floyd has superior boxing intelligence though ...
He needs to get hit often ... effective pressure is the key.
If pac can't do that, its gonna be all floyd.

[- JCHING -]

It would be interesting to see what would happen if Pac didn't go after Floyd. But IMO he won't be able to beat PBF at his own game, just as PBF won't be able to beat Pac at his. Roach will know this and will more than likely just try everything to break Floyd's defence down.

They will both fight to their strengths and IMO the intelligence and skills of Floyd will prove too much for Manny. But Pac has a punchers chance as always, so anything can happen.

[joartcc5]

Mayweather's a slightly different kettle of fish though. Not only is he significantly better than Manny's recent opponents but he poses a very different kind of puzzle to solve.

A large portion of Pacquiao naysayers in the lead up to that fight's reasoning was purely size related. I think now we have all realised that size can be disregarded, and if anything can call Pacquiao the more hardy boxer of the two, and call this one based on ability and styles. Pacquiao's going to have to do more than out-tough and brutalise this opponent, he has to out-think him. If he's to play the defensive game he is going to have to restrict his output drastically or leave himself wide open to counters. And a Pacquiao with a neutered offense is not Pacquiao at all.

Pacquiao trying to play Mayweather's game completely contradicts all of his advantages and I'm fairly certain Roach won't send him out to do that. The reasoning that Pacquiao's offense won't work against Mayweather because other boxers' offenses haven't worked against Mayweather in the past is a bit silly because Pacquiao's offense more or less completely unique to himself - and in my opinion actually has a lot of factors that will make Floyd uncomfortable in there, like his southpaw stance, handspeed and hard to predict angles.

Why did ***g-man duck Cotto then?

Why does the ***g-man refuse to fight top welters?

It's a simple answer.

[GG Marquez]

Yes it does. thats floyds type of fight and he will win if that happens. pac shouldnt fall for that like the others that fought floyd, he should box and try to lure floyd in.

Pac should box Floyd?

Floyd is possibly the best pure boxer at those weights of the past thirty years. Pac's advantage would be to slug/trade. Not box.

[Pacdbest]

I agree 100%. Actually, I asked Shawn Porter and he disagreed, he thinks Pacquiao should just go throwing everything he has at him. Since this has never worked in the past, I don't see the point. On the other hand, Pacquiao is a different kettle of fish altogether, because Floyd never fought anyone like him.

Honestly though, I wouldn't chase Floyd. He's probably expecting it and training for it. I would at least start the fight as we suggested, hold my ground in the center of the ring and see what happens. Floyd knows Pacquiao has some real pop, so I don't see him doing anything but back up and potshot for most of the fight.

Actually Pac can Chase Floyd & Corner him. Pac is way different than any of past Floyd's opponents. Pac has the Head movements & a much quicker reflex than a Zab Judah who give Floyd some Problems for 4 rds. Problem with Zab was he lost steam after 4 rds. Pac will never lost steam. Pac will be there hunting Floyd for 12 rds if necessary.

Pac don't just move forward. He attacks, deliver & back out of range. Floyd has a good range but he is not busy enough to block or counter Pac's relentless attacks. Floyd left hook will not be effective. That leaves him with his Straight Right(which is the best in the business) to counter Pac.

But what will happen if Pac lands the straight Left??? Floyd's shoulder roll defence can't stop the straight left. Shoulder roll only effective for Hooking shots. Zab Judah & Corley landed those straight lefts at Floyd. Pac has the best Straight Lefts in HISTORY!!! The only way he can avoid it is by ducking it, just like what JMM did. But Pac knows how to deal with Ducking. Pac will throw uppercuts to straighten Floyd.

BUt that JMM fight was long time ago. Pac improved so much already. Pac's gets stronger & becomes a more Patient attacker. He knows now how to breakdown opponents slowly. He will be Patient with Floyd. I think he'll concentrate on the Body early, Break Floyd's arm & Finish him up late. I see Floyd's nose & lips gushing blood from rd 6 & Up. I see Floyd's BF Ellerbe throwing the towel around the 11th rd.

[Chups]

I think Pac should do what Porter had suggested....an all out attack against Floyd. Nobody has done that to him and Pac should not worry about Floyd's potshots. Pac is best at offense....use it!