Mayweather-Pacquiao: Both Sides Taking Hard Lines

[Kulitoy]

But if you also been reading my posts, you would have also seen that
I gave Pac an edge too and been back and forth about it. The reason
I can't fully commit to Pac is because I see his flaws and thought Cotto
had what it took to expose them but he didn't, so what, Pac won but
Cotto did have a shot but mentally broke down. Floyd is a different
story, he will beat Pac period, tell Pac to go to 147 and prove he can
truly beat Floyd. People say Floyd never fought a challenge at 147
but neither has Pacquiao because De La Hoya was dead at that weight
and Cotto was 145. The difference is all the guys Floyd fought were at 147. Props to Pac for spanking him but the truth is
the truth.

Juan Manuel Marquez took the fight though correct? I think Roach
and Manny are cheaters to be in the WW division with a title and
not willing to have the fight be at 147.

Is it that WW is at 141 to 147. Wrong again...

[PAKYO]

I picked De La Hoya against Pacquiao too because I'm not too hung up
on him or 100% sure about him either. Sure he has done an excellent
job of beating all in his last three fights but Manny's flaws make me
uncertain. I'm not an expert when it comes to picking fights but when
it comes to Floyd/Pac, I'm riding with Floyd and know he will win because
now I am certain that he is the only one that can expose the flaws that
I see in Manny. Neither Hatton nor Cotto had a corner and Oscar was
done before he even stepped in the ring. Not taking anything away from
Manny but it is what it is. Cotto/Pac, I said either had a shot but leaned
towards Cotto because of his size, power and experience with bigger
fighters but Manny beat him and props for that BUT Floyd? No way
Manny manipulates his mind like he did with Cotto.

Fool, everyone knows the flaws of Manny there's nothing to expose anymore!

Tell me, what flaws of Pac you have seen that's not seen yet? Every flaws of Pac's has been written on here and the reason why fools like you keep picking on his opponents is you are too sure that's the key to beating him but everytime you got pwned.

Floyd doesn't have to expose those flaws, all Pac's opponents have exposed it already what else is left?

What of Floyd, do you know his flaws? NO because you fools refuses to see it.

[rskumm21]

They can argue about the money all day, but this 145 crap is BS. Many people are not taking Mannys accomplishments serious because of this catchweight crap. If he wants to get his props he needs to fight the man at 147.

[GRUSTLER]

But you always ride on Floyd Jr.

Right, Manny has flaws, which makes him more interesting...beating fighters in spite of his flaws. And Floyd Jr has no flaw? his heart is his flaw... his arrogance is THE FLAW... that might lead to his own defeat.

Yeah, no way this... no way that... you always say that since what?

NO WAY MANNY BEATS DELA HOYA...
NO WAY MANNY BEATS HATTON...
NO WAY MANNY BEATS COTTO...

but in respect to Floyd Jr and Pacs abilities... I give them 50/50 chance like I gave Hatton against Pacquiao.

Floyd has many flaws outside the ring but inside I see few
with exception to his hands but haven't seen or heard of them being hurt since Baldomir so I'm figuring he is alright like he suggested on 24/7 with JMM. Manny has won my respect
in all aspect and he sure taught me a lesson and that's not
to sleep on him BUT I ride with Floyd because despite his
personality, he is an excellent boxer and tactician and when/IF this fight happens I pick Floyd, not saying that Pac can't win but I just think Floyd is a more complete fighter. It is exciting for Pac to have done what he did and I think that is what Boxing is about overcoming the odds and he has done that
so cong**** to him. I really don't think people on Boxingscene
read my posts carefully because I don't hate or $#!t on no Boxer in my posts, I just call it how I see it. Sometimes I'm wrong and sometimes I'm right but with Pac I was wrong 3 times, which doesn't make me a fool or a person that don't know what he is talking about, it just makes Pacquiao
a very good fighter.

[PAKYO]

Floyd has many flaws outside the ring but inside I see few
with exception to his hands but haven't seen or heard of them being hurt since Baldomir so I'm figuring he is alright like he suggested on 24/7 with JMM. Manny has won my respect
in all aspect and he sure taught me a lesson and that's not
to sleep on him BUT I ride with Floyd because despite his
personality, he is an excellent boxer and tactician and when/IF this fight happens I pick Floyd, not saying that Pac can't win but I just think Floyd is a more complete fighter. It is exciting for Pac to have done what he did and I think that is what Boxing is about overcoming the odds and he has done that
so cong**** to him. I really don't think people on Boxingscene
read my posts carefully because I don't hate or $#!t on no Boxer in my posts, I just call it how I see it. Sometimes I'm wrong and sometimes I'm right but with Pac I was wrong 3 times, which doesn't make me a fool or a person that don't know what he is talking about, it just makes Pacquiao
a very good fighter.

Alright dude, point taken.

[GRUSTLER]

Fool, everyone knows the flaws of Manny there's nothing to expose anymore!

Tell me, what flaws of Pac you have seen that's not seen yet? Every flaws of Pac's has been written on here and the reason why fools like you keep picking on his opponents is you are too sure that's the key to beating him but everytime you got pwned.

Floyd doesn't have to expose those flaws, all Pac's opponents have exposed it already what else is left?

What of Floyd, do you know his flaws? NO because you fools refuses to see it.

See that's what I'm saying about the majority of you on here. Why all
the disrespect and name calling for? Just because I am not hung up
on Pacquiao like you doesn't make me a fool. I think you have more of
a fan thing with Pacquiao, I just talk Boxing and how I feel about all
fighters. Bottom line, until I see Floyd slipping, rusty or past it in the
ring I'm going to pick him to win.

[GRUSTLER]

Alright dude, point taken.

Cool! Glad that we could settle that. When the fight is announced
come see me and we bet points. You for Manny me for Floyd and
we settle this.

[Puntoyhauf]

Floyd has many flaws outside the ring but inside I see few
with exception to his hands but haven't seen or heard of them being hurt since Baldomir so I'm figuring he is alright like he suggested on 24/7 with JMM. Manny has won my respect
in all aspect and he sure taught me a lesson and that's not
to sleep on him BUT I ride with Floyd because despite his
personality, he is an excellent boxer and tactician and when/IF this fight happens I pick Floyd, not saying that Pac can't win but I just think Floyd is a more complete fighter. It is exciting for Pac to have done what he did and I think that is what Boxing is about overcoming the odds and he has done that
so cong**** to him. I really don't think people on Boxingscene
read my posts carefully because I don't hate or $#!t on no Boxer in my posts, I just call it how I see it. Sometimes I'm wrong and sometimes I'm right but with Pac I was wrong 3 times, which doesn't make me a fool or a person that don't know what he is talking about, it just makes Pacquiao
a very good fighter.

Fair enough Grustler, by the way I also like it to happen at 147lbs with a 50/50 split.

I just like to see the fight happen. but whatever the outcome is... we..the fans are always the winner.

[pugay_kamay]

Floyd has many flaws outside the ring but inside I see few
with exception to his hands but haven't seen or heard of them being hurt since Baldomir so I'm figuring he is alright like he suggested on 24/7 with JMM. Manny has won my respect
in all aspect and he sure taught me a lesson and that's not
to sleep on him BUT I ride with Floyd because despite his
personality, he is an excellent boxer and tactician and when/IF this fight happens I pick Floyd, not saying that Pac can't win but I just think Floyd is a more complete fighter. It is exciting for Pac to have done what he did and I think that is what Boxing is about overcoming the odds and he has done that
so cong**** to him. I really don't think people on Boxingscene
read my posts carefully because I don't hate or $#!t on no Boxer in my posts, I just call it how I see it. Sometimes I'm wrong and sometimes I'm right but with Pac I was wrong 3 times, which doesn't make me a fool or a person that don't know what he is talking about, it just makes Pacquiao
a very good fighter.

Ok Grust, we all know Manny has flaws and so does Floyd (does he?). I have a question, assuming, this is ASSUMING ok?!

You are Roach, how are you going to expose Floyds flaws? Is there any way/s to expose these flaws?

Does Manny has a chance of beating Floyd? Expound/Explain pls.

Thanks

[GRUSTLER]

Is it that WW is at 141 to 147. Wrong again...

Come on man. Don't act like you don't know what I'm saying.
Cotto won his title at 147 and so did everyone else at WW before
Pac came and now all of this 145 catchweight BS is to give him an
advantage and if no one can see that including his fans then I have
nothing else to say on the subject because Freddie Roach just said
it in the video I posted on this thread.