Mayweather-Pacquiao: Both Sides Taking Hard Lines

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Floyd will not take less then 50%.

Floyd is ignorant to think that he should earn more then 50%.

Floyd will be the stumbling block of the fight happening.

50/50, at 147. No excuses. It would be such a shame if this fight were not to happen. It would be the biggest fight of the modern era, possibly all-time.

At the moment, i have Floyd by decision.

[ecuastoh]

50/50, 147, $15 million bonus to the winner. If either one of them cries about that, I don't believe they want the fight.

Can't argue with that at all.

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Ok Grust, we all know Manny has flaws and so does Floyd (does he?). I have a question, assuming, this is ASSUMING ok?!

You are Roach, how are you going to expose Floyds flaws? Is there any way/s to expose these flaws?

Does Manny has a chance of beating Floyd? Expound/Explain pls.

Thanks

The only way I can see Roach being able to expose Floyd is if he breaks
Floyd mentally because like Floyd said before "He beats fighters with his
brain" Pressure, speed and power hasn't done it yet because Floyd has
fought every fighter and no one has yet the style to beat him. Castillo
came close in the first fight but we have to take into consideration
that Floyd was hurt but came back and beat him more soundly in the
rematch. So we really don't know what's the best way to beat him.
Manny just proved that power and size is not a factor in the sport
because he played a very risky mind game with Cotto that worked.
So overall and this is my opinion, if Manny cannot mentally break Floyd
then he will not beat him because I think that is the only way to do it.

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Fair enough Grustler, by the way I also like it to happen at 147lbs with a 50/50 split.

I just like to see the fight happen. but whatever the outcome is... we..the fans are always the winner.

We are in a 100% agreeance right there. This fight has to happen and should be a great match. I'm sure it will be a
chess match. Manny's speed, power and pressure against Floyd's defense, counter punching and footwork, it's going to boil down to who can impose his will on who first and make
that person fight their fight. I would prefer the fight be at
147 so there are no excuses though.

[psidiablo]

Why the fight wont happen at march??

Roach needs more time to train manny how to catch a running chicken...

[SuntokCorps]

50-50 and it's at 147.

Stop the bullsht.

I agree, a fight like this needs to have a clear cut winner, no catchweights.

But I think it's all just part of the negoation process.

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145 is blatanly ducking. The money is a huge problem but we know floyd will never fight at 145...roach doesnt wanna fight floyd at his best.

So your boy took a beatdown and you're a ***** now?

[L.Ellerbe]

why not just let pacman have his weight of 146..but let floyd have the 60-40 share

cant have it all his own way mr roach

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The only way I can see Roach being able to expose Floyd is if he breaks
Floyd mentally because like Floyd said before "He beats fighters with his
brain" Pressure, speed and power hasn't done it yet because Floyd has
fought every fighter and no one has yet the style to beat him. Castillo
came close in the first fight but we have to take into consideration
that Floyd was hurt but came back and beat him more soundly in the
rematch. So we really don't know what's the best way to beat him.
Manny just proved that power and size is not a factor in the sport
because he played a very risky mind game with Cotto that worked.
So overall and this is my opinion, if Manny cannot mentally break Floyd
then he will not beat him because I think that is the only way to do it.

So Manny doesn't have a boxers chance of beating Floyd?

Floyd is undeniably a gifted boxer there's no question about it. But NOBODY in boxing is unbeatable, everybody can be hit at any point in time during the bout (unless the boxer keeps on running the entire bout). Does Floyd chin is tested or not? Do you think if Floyd got hit with a big shot would be able to stand or handle it?

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So Manny doesn't have a boxers chance of beating Floyd?

Floyd is undeniably a gifted boxer there's no question about it. But NOBODY in boxing is unbeatable, everybody can be hit at any point in time during the bout (unless the boxer keeps on running the entire bout). Does Floyd chin is tested or not? Do you think if Floyd got hit with a big shot would be able to stand or handle it?

I've seen Floyd hit by a big shot by Corley and Judah but the one thing
that he does that is smart is keep his cool, goes totally defensive and
gets back to business. I mean anyone could get KO/KD at any given
time but that's just speculation because I haven't seen Floyd in much
trouble throughout his career as a professional fighter. Floyd is a safety
first fighter, so that will always give him the edge because he is thinking
about winning while Pac is thinking about swarming and coming forward.
Oscar at 154 hit Floyd with a couple of big shots and it didn't seem to
bother him, so never questioned his chin. Manny always has had problems
with boxers who dedicate themselves to counter punching and using a
jab. Once Cotto abandoned his jab and decided to brawl out he was
pretty much done. Floyd knows how to keep fighters at bay with that
jab to the stomach, I'm sure that Floyd style will give Manny problems.
Manny waits for openings and everytime he comes in wild there are
opportunities for him to get countered. Manny is very tough, determined
and trains hard but so does Floyd but the difference between the two
is that Floyd doesn't take risks and technically a better defensive fighter
and knows how not to take punishment. Very interesting fight and like
I said, one that will be a chess match. If Manny can't impose his will
on Floyd then he will lose and vice versa. Floyd has never been one
to fight anyone fight but his own.