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Originally posted by TboneNYC09 View PostWe all know that Pac is the faster man with his hands and feet but IMO what will be the big factor in this fight is wether or not Pac can get Cotto's respect in the ring.
We all have to take into consideration that Cotto has been in the ring in the past against some big strong welter weights and hit cleanly by them.
Look at the Margarito Cotto fight,i mean Cotto was hit flush in that fight many times from Margo who is a big and strong welter and he hit Cotto with everything he had(including cast in his gloves)and he was not able to put Cotto down for a ten count.Cotto's corner stopped the fight,that gave Margo the TKO.
IMO Pac will hit Cotto flush at some point in the fight but will he be able to get Cotto's attention?Will Pac hurt Cotto enough to back him off?I think that will determine how the fight goes.
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Originally posted by arcticfalconer View PostThe fun of this site is the debate ! Smiles, I am amazed at the differences people have in their opinions of one fighter against the next.
IMHO, you made a grave error. smiles, YOU said COTTO has been battle tested !
1. During his early fights he fought safe fights. Guys that couldn't really hurt him.
2. After he hit the big time , he fought Judah, Didn't look that great , especially in the begining and the low blows he gave pulled him thru certainly weakening Judah. Cotto showed game in that fight.
3. I felt surely the Mosley fight would prove Cotto GAME ! Mosley needed Hasim to train him not his dad. By the time Mosley turned it on it was nearly too late. IT was that MOSLEY fight that gave pause to question COTTOS GAMENESS ! Cotto was nailed in the late rounds and didn't like that and began some weird back peddling that doesn't become him. Mosleys fault ! Mosley fought a ****** fight but proved he could fight the right fight by having YORE MANG HOPKINS TRAINER in his corner , hence the Margo fight.
4. The Margo fight proved the terrible issue of weather he , Cotto , could take it. WE ALL KNOW the 7th round on , COTTO did not like being in there. EACH round wore on him, he came to the spot, poor feller, that in HIS MIND , he said , "THAT DID IT" , "I AM OUTA HERE", NO MAS, NO MAS,
How you can say Cotto is battle tested is beyond me. He didn't make the hurdle !!! I won't give the excuse of him being damaged goods so that people here can make that excuse when Pacmang does his thang on COTTO !
HAS PAC been tested ????? YES !!!!!!!
Pac was fed to the wolves all his young career ! Food no good , training no good, struggled to make weight, was KO'd because of that twice, did he QUIT ,,,,,,,,,NEVER !!!So what mang ????????? Did he not fight Barrera in his prime???????? Do you think Barrera is a tulip mang ? Did he not fight the great Morales three times losing one because he was a one handed fighter ???? I am talking about the GREAT MORALES !!!!!!!! Did he Never fight fighters with Killer punches and GRREAT SPEED ????? Some say I must be a beginner heheheheheeh where have YA'LL BEEN ??????COTTO will be slow compared to those fighters. Pac was in little then, he was vunerable to their shots, he dealt with their speed, they were better fighters than COTTO, they had GREAT WARS, AS GREAT as COTTO had.
Last word: What the difference will be is that Margo lingers in Cottos mind. Yall try to ignore it. HBO won't let it go !!!! hahahahaha so funny! I have spouted this from day one , this will be the difference. COTTO don't like it when he is losing. He was doing good with Margo , whoopin him real good, great shots, but he was the ONE who acted like he didn't want to be there. Tyson was like that , as long as he was winning he was fine but start losing he QUIT
Keep yore eyes closed , yall are doing fine, heheheheheh
from de mang who has only watched one fight , maybe two in hems life.
prime WW's and Manny hasn't.
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Originally posted by arcticfalconer View PostThe fun of this site is the debate ! Smiles, I am amazed at the differences people have in their opinions of one fighter against the next.
IMHO, you made a grave error. smiles, YOU said COTTO has been battle tested !
1. During his early fights he fought safe fights. Guys that couldn't really hurt him.
2. After he hit the big time , he fought Judah, Didn't look that great , especially in the begining and the low blows he gave pulled him thru certainly weakening Judah. Cotto showed game in that fight.
3. I felt surely the Mosley fight would prove Cotto GAME ! Mosley needed Hasim to train him not his dad. By the time Mosley turned it on it was nearly too late. IT was that MOSLEY fight that gave pause to question COTTOS GAMENESS ! Cotto was nailed in the late rounds and didn't like that and began some weird back peddling that doesn't become him. Mosleys fault ! Mosley fought a ****** fight but proved he could fight the right fight by having YORE MANG HOPKINS TRAINER in his corner , hence the Margo fight.
4. The Margo fight proved the terrible issue of weather he , Cotto , could take it. WE ALL KNOW the 7th round on , COTTO did not like being in there. EACH round wore on him, he came to the spot, poor feller, that in HIS MIND , he said , "THAT DID IT" , "I AM OUTA HERE", NO MAS, NO MAS,
How you can say Cotto is battle tested is beyond me. He didn't make the hurdle !!! I won't give the excuse of him being damaged goods so that people here can make that excuse when Pacmang does his thang on COTTO !
HAS PAC been tested ????? YES !!!!!!!
Pac was fed to the wolves all his young career ! Food no good , training no good, struggled to make weight, was KO'd because of that twice, did he QUIT ,,,,,,,,,NEVER !!!So what mang ????????? Did he not fight Barrera in his prime???????? Do you think Barrera is a tulip mang ? Did he not fight the great Morales three times losing one because he was a one handed fighter ???? I am talking about the GREAT MORALES !!!!!!!! Did he Never fight fighters with Killer punches and GRREAT SPEED ????? Some say I must be a beginner heheheheheeh where have YA'LL BEEN ??????COTTO will be slow compared to those fighters. Pac was in little then, he was vunerable to their shots, he dealt with their speed, they were better fighters than COTTO, they had GREAT WARS, AS GREAT as COTTO had.
Last word: What the difference will be is that Margo lingers in Cottos mind. Yall try to ignore it. HBO won't let it go !!!! hahahahaha so funny! I have spouted this from day one , this will be the difference. COTTO don't like it when he is losing. He was doing good with Margo , whoopin him real good, great shots, but he was the ONE who acted like he didn't want to be there. Tyson was like that , as long as he was winning he was fine but start losing he QUIT
Keep yore eyes closed , yall are doing fine, heheheheheh
from de mang who has only watched one fight , maybe two in hems life.
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Originally posted by Elotero View PostBro i have said that many times here and elsewhere. Problem is, most of these pac***uals dont even know who Sweet Pea is and to them whatever footwork, handwork, speed, conditioning Pac has, is the BEST they ever seen (even when there are dudes who are better now they choose not to acknowledge) And if anyone else is up and coming to them....... you guessed it... its some philipino who aint really about **** like Mayol and Sonsona and Doniare.
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Originally posted by arcticfalconer View PostThe fun of this site is the debate ! Smiles, I am amazed at the differences people have in their opinions of one fighter against the next.
IMHO, you made a grave error. smiles, YOU said COTTO has been battle tested !
1. During his early fights he fought safe fights. Guys that couldn't really hurt him.
2. After he hit the big time , he fought Judah, Didn't look that great , especially in the begining and the low blows he gave pulled him thru certainly weakening Judah. Cotto showed game in that fight.
3. I felt surely the Mosley fight would prove Cotto GAME ! Mosley needed Hasim to train him not his dad. By the time Mosley turned it on it was nearly too late. IT was that MOSLEY fight that gave pause to question COTTOS GAMENESS ! Cotto was nailed in the late rounds and didn't like that and began some weird back peddling that doesn't become him. Mosleys fault ! Mosley fought a ****** fight but proved he could fight the right fight by having YORE MANG HOPKINS TRAINER in his corner , hence the Margo fight.
4. The Margo fight proved the terrible issue of weather he , Cotto , could take it. WE ALL KNOW the 7th round on , COTTO did not like being in there. EACH round wore on him, he came to the spot, poor feller, that in HIS MIND , he said , "THAT DID IT" , "I AM OUTA HERE", NO MAS, NO MAS,
How you can say Cotto is battle tested is beyond me. He didn't make the hurdle !!! I won't give the excuse of him being damaged goods so that people here can make that excuse when Pacmang does his thang on COTTO !
HAS PAC been tested ????? YES !!!!!!!
Pac was fed to the wolves all his young career ! Food no good , training no good, struggled to make weight, was KO'd because of that twice, did he QUIT ,,,,,,,,,NEVER !!!So what mang ????????? Did he not fight Barrera in his prime???????? Do you think Barrera is a tulip mang ? Did he not fight the great Morales three times losing one because he was a one handed fighter ???? I am talking about the GREAT MORALES !!!!!!!! Did he Never fight fighters with Killer punches and GRREAT SPEED ????? Some say I must be a beginner heheheheheeh where have YA'LL BEEN ??????COTTO will be slow compared to those fighters. Pac was in little then, he was vunerable to their shots, he dealt with their speed, they were better fighters than COTTO, they had GREAT WARS, AS GREAT as COTTO had.
Last word: What the difference will be is that Margo lingers in Cottos mind. Yall try to ignore it. HBO won't let it go !!!! hahahahaha so funny! I have spouted this from day one , this will be the difference. COTTO don't like it when he is losing. He was doing good with Margo , whoopin him real good, great shots, but he was the ONE who acted like he didn't want to be there. Tyson was like that , as long as he was winning he was fine but start losing he QUIT
Keep yore eyes closed , yall are doing fine, heheheheheh
from de mang who has only watched one fight , maybe two in hems life.
Pac hasn't been tested at the higher weights yet.
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Originally posted by Carlisle View PostMiguel Cotto has not been impressive in his last 3 outings. He fought good competition coming up and touted to be better than Felix Trinidad but against his last 3 top level opponents he's lost one and barely won the other two. Judging from his performance alone there is no reason to believe he will beat Pacquaio. IMO Cotto lost the Mosley fight.. Pac not only has faster hand speed but I believe the biggest factor is going to be footspeed and lateral movement. Cottos slower footspeed and limited lateral movement may be a huge disadvantage in this fight. Like Hopkins lateral movement exposed both Pavlik and Wright. The difference in lateral movement and footspeed could make this fight easier for Pacquaio than expected. While Cotto has a punchers chance Pac has the power and speed to end early on KO, end in middle rounds on TKO from another Cotto cut or late KO or TKO fro
Cotto routinely fading. Stamina is another big advantage for Pac. There are a lot of disadvantages for Cotto to overcome. Pac only has to overcome power shots. I truly believe we are looking at one of the greatest athletes of our era. I'm looking for Pac to DESTROY Cotto and solidify his pound for pound status, Tasmanian Devil status, modern day Bruce Lee status, Mayweathers most avoided status. Pac by TKO
This is going to be another Judah vs Clottey fight, Judah was quick hit n move and left Clottey on the other side. Pac might do that but once he starts getting hit he will slow his roll.
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once pac gets cotto's timing down and cotto starts to tire, cotto is going to get an ass kickin! you cant stop what you cant see. pacquiao in the later rounds will throw a lot of combinations from his onorthadox angles that cotto will never see coming. the middle to late rounds you will see a lot of fighting in the center of the ring which equals doom for cotto. cotto better start fast if he wants to win...
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