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    #31
    The hype Pac is getting reminds me of the same hype Trinidad got after KOing Joppy.

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      #32
      hatton and odlh are better than cotto p4p, ******

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
        Eso es asi. They dont like when somebody questions his god!
        Thats right! Put it on these Pac loving payasos. They dont know whats up and never will.

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          #34
          Originally posted by zeidrich View Post
          i agree, pac is fighting bums after bums.... diaz, dlh, hatton, cotto.... wtf are you doing pac, fight some legit competition and dont cherypick your enemys...
          hatton was the best 140 lbs boxer and unbeaten. Manny was just too good to be true knocking out Hatton in less than 6 mins after 8 weeks of training. Manny made Diaz, DelaHoya and Hatton bums because the way he destroyed them. HATERS!!!

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            #35
            Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
            Ch@mp, you are seeing this way too simplistically, my friend. Let me throw in my $0.02, for what it's worth.

            You failed to factor in a couple of things.

            The Marquez fights (especially the last one) forced Pacquiao to become a better fighter. The improvement he has shown over the last couple of years is astonishing. As a boxing fan with a keen eye for detail, you should be able to see this. Please, please, put away your nationalistic pride for just one minute and try to see this from a balanced viewpoint! Manny Pacquiao is a better fighter now that he was 2 years ago. Vastly. The reasons:

            1) The Marquez fights, as I mentioned, highlighted some of his weaker points and showed him exactly what needed to be improved. The most important thing was the right hand. See the difference from the first fight to the second. Now consider it's also improved since then.

            2) Alex Ariza. Alex has been working with him since the Diaz fight. They work on explosiveness, plyometrics, ballistic training. This is how he has managed to retain his speed while increasing weight.

            3) Factor in that he is now fighting close to his natural weight these days. He doesn't have to cut nearly as much weight any longer and this certainly hasn't had any kind of negative impact as far as his performances are concerned. The JMM fight was his last at 130 because he was struggling to make it. When he fought Singsurat and got KO'd, he was struggling with weight. Would Manny Pacquiao struggle with such a fighter under normal circumstances, and of all things, go down from a body punch? Really? Hell to the **** NO! Put him in with Singsurat now and see what happens. I would guarantee Singsurat wouldn't make it out of the first round. Why? Because Manny Pacquiao is better. Simple.


            Pacquiao has a different approach nowadays and seems to realize that draining your body to make the lowest weight possible isn't necessary because he can perform better and is stronger when fighting closer to his natural weight, which of course is 140+. (I'd say approx 142-144 would be perfect).

            If Marquez met Pacquiao at 140+ he wouldn't have a chance. Marquez simply doesn't carry his power and speed as well as Manny at the higher weights. To make 140, he has to eat to get there. Manny has to cut a little. Mayweather* proved that 140+ pounds of solid muscle is too much for a natural 126lb'er with 20 pounds of fat to handle.

            * Which leads me to one other point worth mentioning: Floyd had his hardest fights at the lower weights. Since he's been fighting closer to his natural weight, he is virtually untouchable. These two guys know exactly what they are doing.


            So there you go. You can carry on believing Manny is only looking good because he's fighting weaker opponents, that's your opinion, and my opinion is, while there's a degree of truth to what you're suggesting, it isn't quite so simple. Manny is a very finely-tuned machine.


            preach on sam


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              #36
              Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
              The hype Pac is getting reminds me of the same hype Trinidad got after KOing Joppy.
              +1

              And the disrespect Cotto is getting reminds me of Hopkins before the Trinidad fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Animalistic 5.0 View Post
                Take that picture of your profile dumb ****. You going to jinx the man.

                The last picture you had was Tex and he is stinking it up in playoffs.

                Tex won a playoff game for us with a HR.


                Which one is your team?

                I bet they are not in the Playoffs

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pacman777 View Post
                  hatton and odlh are better than cotto p4p, ******
                  GTFOH. You can not be serious.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    GTFOH. You can not be serious.


                    i am serious, ******

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by pacman777 View Post
                      hatton and odlh are better than cotto p4p, ******
                      ODLH??? Serious? The guy who barely escaped Steve Forbes? Who wasnt even ranked P4P? LOL... or Hatton? The guy who momentarily was rocked by Paulie? Barely escaped Lazcano? KTFO by Floyd? Couldnt stop Ben Tackie? Let me guess.. his win over Sucra Ray Olivera makes him P4P in your mind? or a shot Castillo?

                      Dude... you need to pick another sport already....

                      I tell you this everyday bro. Pac is a fraud. You are better off just worshipping Jet Li's fake fighting and believing it's the real deal then watching the ass whooping your boyfriend is going to take.

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