Mannys' Improvements up, His Level of Competition Down

[-Mbandit-]

Aint funny that Manny had tough fights with JMM, the first Morales fight, the second barrera fight he didnt look all that, but as soon as he fought guys with none to 0 defense, he have look so spetacular?

I mean, Manny from the Morales fight to the JMM fight in 2008 he looked the same fighter. I mean dont get me wrong he is a warrior and have lots of heart and determination, but he didnt dominate or so call imporve anything in those fights. As soon as he fight people who only block punches with his face and didnt threw back he looks spectacular.


Guys think he is unhitable, and and unbeatable.

people forget he got beat by a less than a 100% Morales and was given hell by JMM twice.

The Diaz, Hatton and DLH fighst have created a illusion thats just that, a illusion.


People will come to reality on november 14. Even if Manny wins he will be given hell by Cotto!!!!

I agree with you 100%!people are really underestimating Cotto and that same people will be in for a big surprise come Nov/14.Cotto is a complete fighter, he is a beast!But we can't say we didn't warn them Champ!

[Glamour Puss]

Ouch. Cool down the fire man..... I think you're burning them.

Champ forgets the first fight with Barrera where Pac takes Barrera to school. It makes sense that after the Barrera fight where Pac's style was unveiled that Morales and Marquez had an easier time coming up with a blueprint to beat him. Hence why they were harder fights for Pac.

He didn't take him to school. He just overwhelmed Barrera.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

agree with your title champ, not your post. Pac has improved but his level of opposition has dropped.

But if Pacquiao fought marquez again, marquez is not seeing the final bell.

Cotto is the ultimate test.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

No, but I do think Cotto is a step up from Diaz, DLH and Hatton. So you have a point, his level of opposition did go down as he went up in weight for a bit there, but it looks like he's back on track now. And if he beats Cotto, I expect his next fight to be against top competition.

The main point is not the level of competition is the fact that he only have showed improvements when is level of Comp has gone down somewhat!

[shogunn]

wahts the deal with picking on the hatton win. After Hatton decisively beat Malignaggi, he was back on some top P4P lists, and was the #1 at 140 where Manny never fought at.

If manny didnt beat hatton in 2 rounds, and went to a decision, it wouldve looked like a better win to some. But since hatton was destroyed, everyone now rates him as garbage going in. I dont see how this should be marked as a weak win for Manny.

He took care of Hatton in 2, what more could you ask for

[rskumm21]

Aint funny that Manny had tough fights with JMM, the first Morales fight, the second barrera fight he didnt look all that, but as soon as he fought guys with none to 0 defense, he have look so spetacular?

I mean, Manny from the Morales fight to the JMM fight in 2008 he looked the same fighter. I mean dont get me wrong he is a warrior and have lots of heart and determination, but he didnt dominate or so call imporve anything in those fights. As soon as he fight people who only block punches with his face and didnt threw back he looks spectacular.


Guys think he is unhitable, and and unbeatable.

people forget he got beat by a less than a 100% Morales and was given hell by JMM twice.

The Diaz, Hatton and DLH fighst have created a illusion thats just that, a illusion.


People will come to reality on november 14. Even if Manny wins he will be given hell by Cotto!!!!

answer.... Roids.

[DrewWoodside]

wahts the deal with picking on the hatton win. After Hatton decisively beat Malignaggi, he was back on some top P4P lists, and was the #1 at 140 where Manny never fought at.

If manny didnt beat hatton in 2 rounds, and went to a decision, it wouldve looked like a better win to some. But since hatton was destroyed, everyone now rates him as garbage going in. I dont see how this should be marked as a weak win for Manny.

He took care of Hatton in 2, what more could you ask for

I think this is part of the brilliance of Mayweather Jr. His style allows fighter's to hang around for a while and appear almost competitive. Making the opponents frequently appear more game. Knocking guys out in overwhelming fashion can ultimately destroy that fighter's credibility. Pwning too hard = shooting yourself in the foot.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

answer.... Roids.

[swizz]

No, but I do think Cotto is a step up from Diaz, DLH and Hatton. So you have a point, his level of opposition did go down as he went up in weight for a bit there, but it looks like he's back on track now. And if he beats Cotto, I expect his next fight to be against top competition.

are you serious

[shogunn]

I think this is part of the brilliance of Mayweather Jr. His style allows fighter's to hang around for a while and appear almost competitive. Making the opponents frequently appear more game. Knocking guys out in overwhelming fashion can ultimately destroy that fighter's credibility. Pwning too hard = shooting yourself in the foot.

yup, Ive seen it before. Some people were saying in here the best judah anyones ever seen was against floyd, yet he fought floyd coming off a loss from a tuneup.

But since it went 12 rounds and was competitive, it was the best judah anyone ever seen.