Comments Thread For: Dmitry Bivol made shrewd business move by flirting with Benavidez, boosting Saudi purse for Beterbiev trilogy

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Except that we already know he got 2.5 million for defending against Zurdo. There's literally zero controversy about that, or that he got 5 million vs Canelo. So why would the word of a proven liar in Sulaiman be taken as gospel here that he was willing to fight the unified champ for 200K more than fighting his mandatory?

How about you find just ONE source that says 2.7 million that came out before Sulaiman started making things up? Why is it that every figure for fight one was 10 million, and every figure for fight 2 was 10 million, and there aren't any figures dis*****g that until Sulaiman started lying? Where do you think that 10 million figure came from?

Let's see your state of California source too, while we're at it.

crimson, I'm not taking Sulaiman's word as gospel. I'm willing to believe Bivol, anyone in his camp or Turki's word over Sulaiman's. Can you show me a quote from any of them refuting Sulaiman's claim about the $2.7 million. I'm literally telling you that I don't want to believe Sulaiman, I'd rather believe Turki or Bivol's team. Please post anything from Bivol's team or Turki refuting Sulaiman's claim.

From what I've read, the figure for the first fight was not $10 million, but $2 million. Go and re check the amount for the first fight and you'll see that it wasn't $10 million..

Did you not see the figures from The California State Athletic's Commission regarding what Turki paid the fighters for that LA fight card??? I've posted them at least 2 or 3 times. The first time I posted the figures was a couple of weeks after the LA fight, back in August of last year and the most recent time a couple of weeks back...

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

are u saying there are no ppv bonus' awarded in ppv fights?

I'll make it clear for you.

PPV percentage upend is awarded after a certain amount of buys. The Crawford vs Madrimov fight did terrible numbers. Can I SPECULATE that Turki told Bud "the fight did not sell as many tickets as we hoped and the PPV sales were S-hit, but I'm gonna give you an extra $20 million just because I have a crush on you Bud"? Sure I can SPECULATE that, but I can't prove it.

What can be proven is what The California State Athletic's Commission actually reported and that's Public Record. Let's stick with facts and not feelings or speculations..

[57Blues]

A few years ago the WBC wouldn't sacution the fight between bivol and Beterbiev because he was Russian. Now they forced him to fight Benavidez when they allowed canelo to duck him for years. These belts organizations make up rules out of no where and only enforce them when they want.

However TKO/ Dana and Turki will end up doing the same thing. We need a non bias government runned boxing organization.

You mean like a National Commison or something similar ..... (?) So they can do drug testing and match making that makes sense and have facillities that are geared towards bringing youth into the sport and keeping it clean and safe > ? you talking about over see fighters who get injured or killed in the ring ? this is Boxing..... Boxing only ansere's to Boxing nothing or no one else period. i hear ya but it is not going to happen they would rather asasanate there stable of fighters and drink poison then do that..........

[Smash]

I'll make it clear for you.

PPV percentage upend is awarded after a certain amount of buys. The Crawford vs Madrimov fight did terrible numbers. Can I SPECULATE that Turki told Bud "the fight did not sell as many tickets as we hoped and the PPV sales were S-hit, but I'm gonna give you an extra $20 million just because I have a crush on you Bud"? Sure I can SPECULATE that, but I can't prove it.

What can be proven is what The California State Athletic's Commission actually reported and that's Public Record. Let's stick with facts and not feelings or speculations..

no one said he gave bud and extra 20 mil but if there was a ppv bonus or some other thing like it it might be entered into this cali full disclosure thing and be available to all to view? would that not be correct

but ppv figures and bonus payments dont arrive until weeks or months after the fight according to how it works

[boxingitis]

injured slow 40 year old or
young hungry fast 28 year old?

It's an easy choice

[Smash]

injured slow 40 year old or
young hungry fast 28 year old?

It's an easy choice

so now beter is hopeless and benny would then beat him easy?

[boxingitis]

so now beter is hopeless and benny would then beat him easy?

The more time passes the less chance Beterbiev has. Injuries and age doesn't help at this point.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

no one said he gave bud and extra 20 mil but if there was a ppv bonus or some other thing like it it might be entered into this cali full disclosure thing and be available to all to view? would that not be correct

but ppv figures and bonus payments dont arrive until weeks or months after the fight according to how it works

Smash, I'm a fan of Bud and I'd like to see the man get paid as much as Tank, Ryan and even Ginger, so if I'm gonna speculate on a bonus that he might have received from that fight, I'm not gonna draw it out from the PPV sales and live gate, because tickets had to be given away for the fight so it didn't look too empty and PPV sales were reported as not being over 100k.

By law, whatever monies Turki paid Bud for fighting in CA would have to be reported to the state, that's just the way business is conducted in CA. It has been 8 months since that fight took place, the PPV numbers weren't high so the rounded number would have been tallied by September of last year.

If you're gonna tell me that Turki paid Bud millions under the table, how many millions under the table do you believe Turki paid Bud? You're arguing over a figure that you have no clue about, just your feelings, a hunch, nothing factual, but I won't argue what you're guessing, because that's just an opinionated guess. Your guess is as good as mine!

I'm simply arguing the factual amount that was reported by The California State Athletic's Commission. Could Turki have paid Bud more than what was reported, sure, I can't prove it though because it wasn't reported. But I'll play the guessing game with you, I'm gonna guess that the bonus Turki promised Bud wasn't based on how well the fight sold. I'm gonna guess that the bonus Turki paid Bud was based on how manly Bud smelled, or how ripped his abs looked that night. Better yet, Bud's bonus was based on how white his teeth were that night, so judging from how white Bud's teeth looked that night I'm gonna guess Turki paid him an extra $20 million.

How much of a bonus are you GUESSING Turki paid Bud for that fight? $500k? $1 million? $10 million? What's your guess?

[Smash]

How much of a bonus are you GUESSING Turki paid Bud for that fight? $500k? $1 million? $10 million? What's your guess?

im not going to guess but i know that bud did not fight mad for 2 mil on a turki card in cali, thats delusional stuff imo

[El_Mero]

And if it's another close fight or draw, then what?