Comments Thread For: Naoya Inoue will now face Ye Joon Kim following withdrawal of Sam Goodman

[IceTrayDaGang]

bet on the korean!! inside knowledge.

[Elheath]

I am usually "excited" to see those I follow
The last time I was thrilled with a Nelo opp was Biv
While I am no doubt a huge Nelo fan, I am critical.
Most fan bots are unable to.
They just throw around accusations and project their emotions onto others.

Was not thrilled with GGG 3 and beyond
Won't be thrilled with a possible fight with Bud.
IMHO, Nelo has fought everyone he needs to.
He retires right now( he's getting up there. Fighting since he was 15), he's a 1st ballot unanimous HOFer.

Not many fighters can say that.

No telling who has a rematch clause and when it's to happen and if a fighter is willing to fight a top level guy while waiting.

You see how you lined up the best possible opps for Nelo
Now do that for every fighter
See who will live up to those lofty expectations

The thing is, you claim to be critical of Canelo but seems to be willing to cover for his choices every time a hater rips his choice which doesn't really come out as critical. I'm a full fledged Inoue fanbot but has b!tched since the day it was announced regarding Doheny getting a bag. I recall you actually arguing that Berlanga and Benny had a similar resume and thus the choice to fight the former wasn't a dumb idea which was quite a WTF argument.

I would always rather see the guys that I follow fight good matchups as well and lose than keep the precious zero and not fight. I've always said I really enjoyed Canelo's choices...UNTIL Charlo was chosen over Benavidez by the most WTF reasoning and followed by the most pathetic reason of taking Munguia for a all-Mexican fight (after refusing Benny because Canelo doesn't fight fellow Mexicans) then friggin Berlanga due to the "Mexico-Puerto Pico rivalry"...uh, yeah, like there's any fan of Canelo that would rather seen that over the Mexican showdown with Benny (which I still thought Canelo would be the favorite back then, but not sure anymore if Canelo even has the fire to fight him anymore). The GGG3 was a total cash grab which wasn't that exciting but is financially understandeable, and Ryder was...dunno, a comeback fight with a legit 168 boxer after a loss to Bivol? But then a bloated Charlo, Munguia then Berlanga was three straight WTF when the best guy available in 168 was sitting around in Benny. Canelo will certainly be a first ballot HoFer even if he retired today for sure...however, if he's going to do the equivalent of endless exhibitions equivalents (GGG3, Charlo, possibly Crawford) until the end of his career with non-168 guys then I wish he'd just gave up all but one belt and let the other guys fight for them, the idiocy of IBF aside.

That said I don't know who (if anyone) is giving credit about fighting Kim but it is also true that fiasco is all 300% Goodman's fault. Eff you Goodman rot in heII. January doesn't exist anymore for me boxing wise, and its probably the first Inoue fight in years despite being completely free, that I might not even bother making sure I am free that day to watch it fully live and just check the highlight to see what round it was ended. Eff you Goodman rot in heII. However given Ohashi already spent enough money wasted on the effin BS by Goodman and can't financially afford cancelling the whole fight after extending it once already. Obviously Inoue gains nothing off it except a paid sparring session but given the rest of the fighters involved he has a due diligence to fight just so the rest of the fighters don't get effed again. They may not have the name of Inoue but they still have a career that Ohashi needs to care about.

So forgetting about this month's paid sparring session that doesn't exist in my mind anymore, Inoue only has one guy I'm really wanting to see at 122, which is Nakatani. Honestly I was initially expecting to see Inoue in 126 sometime this year when last year started (Fulton, Tapales, Nery, Goodman, MJ, then 126) so its already a bit of let down, but the hope for Nakatani is the only factor that is keeping me accept Inoue sticking around 122 one extra year. Picasso in April is a meh opponent that Arum wants to get Mexicans in Vegas, and MJ is a Saudi sacrifice at this point. Eff you Goodman.

Crawford should forget about selling his zero to Canelo and fight Murtazaliev in May (when his supposed injury is supposed to be healed) then the winner of Fundora/Spence if it happens then ride off to the sunset. Unfortunately he seems to have decided to take the Canelo purse then retire. I wish Canelo stuck to his words that he's not interested because he'd get no credit. Eff Turki funding working the bad way in this case.

Usyk should fight the winner of DDD/Parker and perhaps retire or if he can, go back down to cruiser for Opetaia. This actually has a chance of happening due to Turki money.

The winner of Benny/Morrell should be fighting Beter/Bivol or one of the cruiser champs. Canelo would be good as well but won't happen IMO.

Oh, and eff you Goodman rot in heII if I haven't said it enough already.

[TheProudLunatic]

The reason I cut the resume is because what-have-you-done-for-me-recently does matter to an extent as well (if not it will make Mike Tyson a P4P fighter with one of the best resumes among "active" boxers), and Canelo pre-Bivol and post-Bivol is a completely different person it seems. Serious question, what is the last fight involving Canelo that you, as a huge fan of him, was legit excited for and the best realistic opponent you wanted for Canelo when it happened? Also, what is your opinion for a Canelo vs Scull which actually doesn't seem too farfetched of an idea if the rumors that he got contacted are true?

So you actually think winner of Benny/Morrell could occur sans rematch clause, but do you think the winner of Benny vs Morrell is coming back down to 168, or do you think Canelo's gonna go up to 175? Frankly I have a sad feeling neither would ever happen anymore this year or next year or any year. Of course I'd want them to happen, but at this point I am fully expecting a let down like vs William Scull to be "re-undisputed" for Cinco de Mayo followed by a bloated-Crawford for Mexican Independance Day for a "undisputed Canelo vs former two division undisputed Crawford" drama. I guess Crawford is better than Eubank Jr (not saying much) but he is not very high in my list of potential Canelo opponents, despite what Tim Bradley and others are smoking to say to argue age 37 turning 38 years old 168 lbs Bud is gonna KO Canelo, after looking very average against 154 Madrimov. Honestly I'd rather see Canelo fight Pacheco, Mbilli or even Iglesias more than Bud or Scull...even though they are likely to lose at least they could be potential futures of 168 unlike bloated and aged Crawford or Scull/Shishkin. Although I don't mind losses on fighters, can't deny Munguia royally hurt his potential to be considered the future of 168 with a loss to pillow fist Surace and Berlanga has done crap so far outside KO enough unranked cans to get the Canelo payday.

My preference for Canelo this year: Bivol regardless of whether he wins or loses against Beter rematch > winner of Benny/Morrell > loser of Benny/Morrell > Pacheco/Mbilli/Iglesias >>> bloated Crawford circus fight/Scull "undisputed" fight. I fear the right two are move likely than the guys on the left. By the way Beterbiev has never been mentioned by Canelo and I don't think it ever happens. Too big and strong for Canelo.

Will have to resume (teehee) in a month

[Elheath]

bet on the korean!! inside knowledge.

Ya got secret intel that Kim's gonna get some North Korean spies to spike Inoue's drink the day before to give him a nasty stomach ache during the fight?