Comments Thread For: Negotiations taking place for Jaron Ennis to fight Eimantas Stanionis or Mario Barrios

[Elheath]

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So you’re saying Boots career is over at just 27 and he should just retire?

He shouldn't retire, but he should stop being picky and demanding A-side treatment when he has accomplished absolutely NOTHING in 10 years except be the "eye test" darling.

He talks about the weight cut starting to get hard and wanting the smoke from 154, but refused Ortiz at 154 when offered saying he still wants to unify at 147 first.
He was the one that wanted an unification, but wasn't willing to add on extra incentive when Norman countered the offer. It isn't like Norman was asking for an extra 10 million, he wanted another 500k for the cost of selling his belt which isn't a crazy insane offer given the situation.
He complains about being ducked, and yet apparently he doesn't want a Teo fight that was offered...which is certainly not an unification, but still would've been the best name on his resume.

Obviously you get credits for winning, but you also get more credit in losing against a good name than not fighting a good name at all. Stay busy fights are just that, but a stay busy is better than no fight.

[Elheath]

By the way for comparison, Nakatani who is the same age as Boots (Junto 6 month younger) has been begging for unifications for a while now in three divisions as well, and has been ducked royally every time. However that didn't stop him to continue fighting someone, and took opportunities for a belt when it came, and fighting anyone starting from the top of the ranking and taking the first person that accepts. He fought three times last year, and already has a fight set for next month.

From May 2023-February 2025, age 25-27 Nakatani will have 6 title fights in 21 month, including one active beltholder.
He won the vacant WBO 115 belt against Andrew Moloney. He then fought Cortes, then went up and defeated Santiago for the WBC 118 belt. He defended it against Astrolabio and Petch. He is about to fight Cueller next. Knowing his pattern, he probably will fight his 7th match around June or July, making it 7 fights in 25-26 months. If he fights two more times by November, that is 8 fights in 30 month.

From Jan 2023 to-November 2025, Boots had 4 title fights in 22 month, with no active beltholder.
He fought Karen for a vacant interim, then Villa, got an email, then Avanesyan, then Karen again. He's "in negotiations" right now with Barrios, and lets say he lucks out for a fight in April at the absolute earliest. That is 5 fights in 27 month at best. Knowing PBC if talks stagnate and goes past July that is 30 month for 5 fights, a span Nakatani could've fought 8 times by then.

[Oregonian]

He’s 28 in June and been a WW for 10 years. 31 fights. He has no fights lined up. His top target is Mario barrios now. His promoter has said it. Mario barrios who’s been KTFO by a LW and beaten semi retired old ass Keith Thurman who came back from his 5 year sabbatical to clown. I don’t know what else to say. They said they wanted all the names then when the names came knocking he ran back to the kiddie pool. They are a joke in boxing now. I’ve seen guys like this come and go he’s just another Andrade. He’s not the first he’s not the last. Hypejob 101 class is in lol

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You seem to think I’m disagreeing with you when we talk.
Boots fighting Barrios is a joke of a fight. I also think all the guys st 147 are weak when compared to the 154 division.

I think (and I’m not defending Boots) based in the advise from his team, they want to collect all the belts at 147 so they can have leverage when negotiating fights and also to stake a claim in history as not just a WW champion but the 2nd undisputed WW champion in history.

I remember when Floyd was very criticized for fighting Zab and Baldomir at 147 and I said the same thing - belts give you leverage especially when you aren’t a superstar like Floyd was at the time or like how Boots is today.

I also recognize that Turki can pay Boots an astronomical amount of money to fight Ortiz so I don’t know why he turned that fight down. Boots is not struggling to make 147 so he could have dropped back if he wanted to.

What I will say is this, based on the proverbial eyeball test, I believe Boots will beat Ortiz very easy. That’s where we should keep this debate.

[LAchargers373]

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You seem to think I’m disagreeing with you when we talk.
Boots fighting Barrios is a joke of a fight. I also think all the guys st 147 are weak when compared to the 154 division.

I think (and I’m not defending Boots) based in the advise from his team, they want to collect all the belts at 147 so they can have leverage when negotiating fights and also to stake a claim in history as not just a WW champion but the 2nd undisputed WW champion in history.

I remember when Floyd was very criticized for fighting Zab and Baldomir at 147 and I said the same thing - belts give you leverage especially when you aren’t a superstar like Floyd was at the time or like how Boots is today.

I also recognize that Turki can pay Boots an astronomical amount of money to fight Ortiz so I don’t know why he turned that fight down. Boots is not struggling to make 147 so he could have dropped back if he wanted to.

What I will say is this, based on the proverbial eyeball test, I believe Boots will beat Ortiz very easy. That’s where we should keep this debate.

when Floyd fought baldomir at that point he had already fought Castillo, corrales,gatti. Like there’s no comparison. You literally are calling bootsy a superstar that at this moment in his career was the same level as Floyd when he fought baldomir…that’s delusional bro lol. Eyeball test? Karen was landing BOMBS on bootsy dude was undersized and has a 30 percent KO rate against bums lol. He didn’t take the Ortiz fight because he’s a fraud. If wasn’t he wouldn’t be. It’s that simple. Any more titles won’t get him any more leverage because the only unification he’s willing to take is barrios and barrios as I keep saying …is a BUM. I’m not gonna keep listing his credentials lol. Almost February now and I’ll bet by the time morrel and benevidez fight bootsy still won’t have a fight lined up. While all his fans keep saying he can beat all these people and bozo and bootsy tell the world everyone is scared of them while they fight Karen’s lol

[Oregonian]

when Floyd fought baldomir at that point he had already fought Castillo, corrales,gatti. Like there’s no comparison. You literally are calling bootsy a superstar that at this moment in his career was the same level as Floyd when he fought baldomir…that’s delusional bro lol. Eyeball test? Karen was landing BOMBS on bootsy dude was undersized and has a 30 percent KO rate against bums lol. He didn’t take the Ortiz fight because he’s a fraud. If wasn’t he wouldn’t be. It’s that simple. Any more titles won’t get him any more leverage because the only unification he’s willing to take is barrios and barrios as I keep saying …is a BUM. I’m not gonna keep listing his credentials lol. Almost February now and I’ll bet by the time morrel and benevidez fight bootsy still won’t have a fight lined up. While all his fans keep saying he can beat all these people and bozo and bootsy tell the world everyone is scared of them while they fight Karen’s lol

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Bruh, you missed my point.
Floyd fought Zab and Baldomir to get to Oscar, which was his goal all along. Floyd was not a superstar then.
There was no way Floyd was going to be coming from 140 and head straight to Oscar. He had zero leverage and Oscar was the cash cow then.

I’m not comparing Boors resume to Floyd’s. I was speculating as to why - he’s said he wants to unify the 147 division just like Bud did. Before you start saying Bud was already accomplished, I’ll remind you that 147 was Bud’s 3rd weight class.

2025 is just starting so I’ll wait him out. If he gets beat by whoever it is, then he gets beat.

[LAchargers373]

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Bruh, you missed my point.
Floyd fought Zab and Baldomir to get to Oscar, which was his goal all along. Floyd was not a superstar then.
There was no way Floyd was going to be coming from 140 and head straight to Oscar. He had zero leverage and Oscar was the cash cow then.

I’m not comparing Boors resume to Floyd’s. I was speculating as to why - he’s said he wants to unify the 147 division just like Bud did. Before you start saying Bud was already accomplished, I’ll remind you that 147 was Bud’s 3rd weight class.

2025 is just starting so I’ll wait him out. If he gets beat by whoever it is, then he gets beat.

To get beat by someone you have to fight someone. There’s no one at 147 that could beat any of the top 7 at 154. He can become undisputed at 147 and beat Norman jr and stannois but by the time that happens he’ll be 30 and the best at 154 will have moved up. It’s a calculated DUCK. Basically exactly what he did at 147. 10 years at WW moved to the mandatory spot to fight Crawford and he DUCKED and abandoned his #1 WBO mandatory ranking to take a #1 ranking by the IBF because he knew Spence was moving up win or lose against Crawford AND he ducked Crawford cause they could’ve fought on BLK prime but they turned that down too. The kid is duck city. He waited out 147 to get his belt in the mail he trying to “unify” against the worst WW champion of all time in barrios just to have “unified WW champion” on his resume. Tell me that’s not fraud bro. The ONE acceptable fight at WW is stannaois and that fight ain’t happening he’s with PBC and bootsy signed with Eddie Hearn and went the andrade route