Comments Thread For: Bob Arum reluctant to place Teofimo Lopez-Subriel Matias on PPV

[Pulmonary Embolisms]

I think everyone has summed it up. For me, there was a time when PPV meant it was a really big fight and everyone wanted to see it. Then it descended into "it's not huge, but screw it, boxing fans might swing for it", followed by "let's bleed everyone for a bout that is a one horse race". DAZN went from a subscription service to a "give me your wallet" heist as well. I paid for Oleksandr Usyk v Tyson Fury 2, just to see Oleksandr shut Fury up (Tyson still can't zip it), but the undercard was nothing to write home about (and I like some of boxers that were on it). Just give value for money and folk will buy stuff!

[chicken-]

Make PPVs cheap, reliable and too convenient compared to dodgy streams. That’s how Netflix won over many people who used to torrent films and tv shows.

$60 is too much for one event where the undercard is weak and the main card might not deliver.

Yea except when Netflix is the dodgy stream (Paul vs Tyson).

[IAMTHAT]

The real ripoff is the asking price of most PPV's, a lot that do not even deserve to be PPVs like this one.

Exactly my point … I’m not against more PPVs if the price was reasonable

[rickJen]

Reason why they do it on PPV is because fighters want too much guarantee money.
Not because broadcasters or promoters make huge profit from it.
It's a delicate balancing act for Arum in this case. Fact that it's on PPV means
few people would be able to see it. Then the ads have to be eliminated...
HBO was the first to publicly say they never wanted PPVs, they rather do it like
they've done most of their fights.

[BustedKnuckles]

The reality is there are two fighters that have any business fighting on ppv and that is canelo and tank. Nobody else should even be thinking about fighting on ppv but all of these guys win one semi notable fight and think they are stars.

Definitely not the heavyweight championship of the world, though...

Just a smw who fights nobody anymore and a little guy who always fights nobody.

[MulaKO]

Yea except when Netflix is the dodgy stream (Paul vs Tyson).

They have the coin to fix that
I won’t chit on them as that was them getting their beak wet
The stream will definitely not be a problem as they are in negotiations with Too Rank
They are getting into it all ; NHL , NFL and even wrestling has gone on Netflix

[champion4ever]

The problems lies with the fact that boxing is no longer a mainstream sport anymore. Which in turn force these promoters to overcharge and fleece the boxing consumer with a higher price tag for their loss of a broader audience, piracy and revenue.

[champion4ever]

Reason why they do it on PPV is because fighters want too much guarantee money.
Not because broadcasters or promoters make huge profit from it.
It's a delicate balancing act for Arum in this case. Fact that it's on PPV means
few people would be able to see it. Then the ads have to be eliminated...
HBO was the first to publicly say they never wanted PPVs, they rather do it like
they've done most of their fights.

I agree. PPV was made in order to line both the fighters and promoters pockets and not the networks; Since they are not the ones assuming the financial risk but the fighters are.

[Nightfall]

Nice fight should it happened. Hopez always screws shtt up when he gets e-ho-tional and claims everybody is ducking

[crimsonfalcon07]

I buy my fair share of PPV's, most of which I end up watching by myself because the wife doesn't like boxing. Some are more worth it than others in terms of content, but a consistent problem is that, the more worthy a PPV, the more technical issues tend to arise. I've had freezing, terrible resolution (and that looks really bad on a 120" screen), green screen, audio dropouts, etc. And the commentary is usually garbage. $80 pretty much never feels like good value to me. So when the pirates are doing a better job distributing a quality stream than the official ones, maybe they need to work on their streaming infrastructure, because if I can't watch the fight in the advertised quality for the entire time without issues when I pay for it, I certainly can't blame people who stream it instead.