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    #11
    For the meantime Akhma can try to avenge his loss to #5 Tapales ...

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      #12
      ​In fact Ahmadaliev and the Battle of Tapales were not lost by Ahmadaliev. The judges were wrong. I think Inoue is afraid of Ahmadaliev and continues to flee. It would be fair for the WBA organization to pull the belt away from Inoue

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        Damn, Inoue ducking Akhmadaliev? Not a good look.

        Should have fought him instead of trash TJ Doheny.
        Doheny was certainly a waste and if I had a choice I would definitely take MJ over Picasso on April because Picasso's done nothing except be young and have way more fans than the former, and the dumb excuse of "undefeated Mexican popularity" is basically identical to the Puerto Rico rivalry excuse used to justify Berlanga over Benavidez for Canelo. Still, if worst case Vegas and Top Rank isn't budging because they reeeeeally want the Mexican following to sell the card, I don't care if the Picasso match leads to the WBA being temporarily stripped and go to MJ as long as they are willing to agree to fight in the summer under Saudi (which MJ likely won't be fighting until anyway because he isn't fighting in April if offered Vegas knowing his inactiveness). That way it immediately returns back to Inoue for the Nakatani showdown in December which is what matters the most. However, something about MJ makes me think he'll make whatever excuse not to do a re-undisputed fight once he gets an email belt unless it is on their terms and they further b!tch when Inoue says eff you I'm going to 126 which will unfortunately happen if MJ/Eddie isn't going to go on Inoue's schedule.

        If Arum and Eddie isn't willing to cooperate, crossing fingers Turki is talking directly with Ohashi literally right now for an August Saudl card and tells minion Eddie to nod like a good dog he is.

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          #14
          Originally posted by sportchi View Post
          ​In fact Ahmadaliev and the Battle of Tapales were not lost by Ahmadaliev. The judges were wrong. I think Inoue is afraid of Ahmadaliev and continues to flee. It would be fair for the WBA organization to pull the belt away from Inoue
          Frankly the moment they get the email belt and also get an offer from Inoue for "re-undisputed" for summer, I can see MJ and Eddie thinking of every excuse not to accept ranging from "we tried and were refused many times, we have our own plans now and will have to wait" or "Inoue isn't willing to 'negotiate' despite MJ now being a beltholder as well and deserves a better offer" or "we have to take care of our mandatories as well" etc etc.
          But as Inoue said it himself on twitter..."Why the hell would I have to run from a guy who lost to Tapales? Absolutely zero need for that...I'm focused fully on my next fight with Goodman right now so wait your turn and in the mean time raise the value of winning against you" instead of wasting time just fighting chumps significantly weaker than the said Tapales or Doheny.
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            #15
            Originally posted by Elheath View Post
            Doheny was certainly a waste and if I had a choice I would definitely take MJ over Picasso on April because Picasso's done nothing except be young and have way more fans than the former, and the dumb excuse of "undefeated Mexican popularity" is basically identical to the Puerto Rico rivalry excuse used to justify Berlanga over Benavidez for Canelo. Still, if worst case Vegas and Top Rank isn't budging because they reeeeeally want the Mexican following to sell the card, I don't care if the Picasso match leads to the WBA being temporarily stripped and go to MJ as long as they are willing to agree to fight in the summer under Saudi (which MJ likely won't be fighting until anyway because he isn't fighting in April if offered Vegas knowing his inactiveness). That way it immediately returns back to Inoue for the Nakatani showdown in December which is what matters the most. However, something about MJ makes me think he'll make whatever excuse not to do a re-undisputed fight once he gets an email belt unless it is on their terms and they further b!tch when Inoue says eff you I'm going to 126 which will unfortunately happen if MJ/Eddie isn't going to go on Inoue's schedule.

            If Arum and Eddie isn't willing to cooperate, crossing fingers Turki is talking directly with Ohashi literally right now for an August Saudl card and tells minion Eddie to nod like a good dog he is.
            Inoue’s side keeps putting off the Akhmadaliev fight and kicking the can down the road. It’s obvious they don’t want that smoke.

            The fact is he is next according to the rotation system and rightfully deserves his shot. Not Picasso.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BoxWhere

              But Akhmadaliev fought no one other than getting BS decision against Roman. And he refuses to avenge his defeat to Tapales. And he also won't fight Elijah Pierce who has been calling him out. Elijah is ranked No 2 at WBA and ranked at No 7 by Ring ****zine. Instead MJ fought can ranked No 88 by BoxRec lol.
              Please feel free to share when and where either Tapales or Pierce sent an offer that MJ turned down...

              Facts are that he's the WBA mandatory, and that's the one that's next in rotation, not the WBC again. You should have this energy for literally thousands of other fighters who fight the guys that sign to fight them rather than others who are higher ranked who never even enter negotiations.

              ​​​​​​​This is beyond stup1d, especially in the case of Tapales, who obviously wasn't going to skip the money fight with Inoue to rematch MJ. He's been fighting rebuild fights ever since, and is certainly not going to risk fighting MJ again without a belt on the line. And guys call out other fighters all the time without ever entering negotiations. I don't take any of that seriously without even an offer sent, let alone contracts. SMH.

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                #17
                Inoue is running away from Casimero

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
                  Please feel free to share when and where either Tapales or Pierce sent an offer that MJ turned down...

                  Facts are that he's the WBA mandatory, and that's the one that's next in rotation, not the WBC again. You should have this energy for literally thousands of other fighters who fight the guys that sign to fight them rather than others who are higher ranked who never even enter negotiations.

                  ​​​​​​​This is beyond stup1d, especially in the case of Tapales, who obviously wasn't going to skip the money fight with Inoue to rematch MJ. He's been fighting rebuild fights ever since, and is certainly not going to risk fighting MJ again without a belt on the line. And guys call out other fighters all the time without ever entering negotiations. I don't take any of that seriously without even an offer sent, let alone contracts. SMH.
                  I really, REALLY want Inoue-MJ in 2025. I wanted it more than Picasso. I hoped it would be April instead of Picasso.

                  That being said, if the sad true fact that he has zero fans is the hindering source and Arum wants the Vegas card to get Mexican viewership with Picasso, at this point go ahead and strip WBA and set up another undisputed in the summer with Saudi where crowd number means **** anyway, so that the December Nakatani fight is for undisputed in Tokyo.
                  However people tend to forget but it isn't like MJ has been waiting that much longer than the other mandatories, he's just started b!tching earlier than the others.
                  Nery became a mandatory on Feb 2023, and fought Inoue on May 2024 which is 15 month as mando.
                  Goodman became a mandatory on June 2023, and was supposed to fight on Dec 2024 which became Jan 2025 which is 18-19 month as mando.
                  MJ became a mandatory on Dec 2023, b!tched about being passed over for Sept 2024 by Doheny which was 9 month after he even became a mando. B!tched about Goodman (who's been waiting longer than MJ) getting Dec 24, and managed to get an interim belt less than a year waiting mandatory. He'll likely get emailed up to fulltime around Feb25, 14 month as mandatory.

                  If Inoue wasn't an active guy and fought less frequently, and had his schedule been Jul23 Fulton, Dec23 Tapales, May24 Nery, Dec24/Jan25 Goodman, Summer25 MJ, then no one would claim Inoue is ducking MJ. But when Doheny and Picasso comes in between somehow makes it look like a duck.

                  Either way, I'll just cross my fingers hoping MJ is up to fight for re-undisputed in Aug because that seems like the final chance of it happening at this point...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BoxWhere

                    But how is MJ next in line when Inoue is WBA super champion. Super champion fights mandatory after 18 months have passed since he won the title. It's the perks of being a super champion and that's why you have to pay more in sanctioning fees to WBA. Inoue won the WBA title in December 26, 2023 and won't have to defend it until june 26, 2026.
                    You clearly don't understand the rotation system or the concept of mandatories. He may have 18 months to fight MJ, but he can't fight Picasso first unless it's a voluntary that is approved by the WBA. And, per their rules, it would have to be an opponent ranked in the top 15 by the WBA, and Picasso isn't.

                    And you think MJ, the mandatory and B side, is supposed to send the offer? GTFO. YDKSAB.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Elheath View Post
                      I really, REALLY want Inoue-MJ in 2025. I wanted it more than Picasso. I hoped it would be April instead of Picasso.

                      That being said, if the sad true fact that he has zero fans is the hindering source and Arum wants the Vegas card to get Mexican viewership with Picasso, at this point go ahead and strip WBA and set up another undisputed in the summer with Saudi where crowd number means **** anyway, so that the December Nakatani fight is for undisputed in Tokyo.
                      However people tend to forget but it isn't like MJ has been waiting that much longer than the other mandatories, he's just started b!tching earlier than the others.
                      Nery became a mandatory on Feb 2023, and fought Inoue on May 2024 which is 15 month as mando.
                      Goodman became a mandatory on June 2023, and was supposed to fight on Dec 2024 which became Jan 2025 which is 18-19 month as mando.
                      MJ became a mandatory on Dec 2023, b!tched about being passed over for Sept 2024 by Doheny which was 9 month after he even became a mando. B!tched about Goodman (who's been waiting longer than MJ) getting Dec 24, and managed to get an interim belt less than a year waiting mandatory. He'll likely get emailed up to fulltime around Feb25, 14 month as mandatory.

                      If Inoue wasn't an active guy and fought less frequently, and had his schedule been Jul23 Fulton, Dec23 Tapales, May24 Nery, Dec24/Jan25 Goodman, Summer25 MJ, then no one would claim Inoue is ducking MJ. But when Doheny and Picasso comes in between somehow makes it look like a duck.

                      Either way, I'll just cross my fingers hoping MJ is up to fight for re-undisputed in Aug because that seems like the final chance of it happening at this point...
                      I hear you. I didn't like how MJ tried to jump in front of Goodman, but honestly, Goodman has a lot to do with that, with his as1nine extra fight that he got injured in, which put the Doheny fight in play and screwed the timeline. Now he's hurt himself again. I'm really disgusted with him.

                      That being said, the notion that MJ doesn't have any fans, and Picasso does is just ridiculous. MJ is a former unified champion at the weight class, while Picasso is a nobody, with zero good wins period. He didn't even fight a guy with a winning record until his 11th fight, has fought nobody of note since, and his best win is Azat Hovhannisyan, whose best claim to fame is losing every time he so much as looked at the title picture. And that was his ONLY 12 rounder ever.

                      IMO, it's the Top Rank brass being scared of an upset and wanting a softer touch for what is, wrongly, being viewed as Inoue's debut outside of Japan. And that entire fake narrative drives me nuts. MJ is the most credible opponent left in the division, as a former unified champion with only a split decision loss as a blemish, unless you value Casimero, which I don't (and talk about someone who isn't doing anything to get back into the title picture...)

                      If anything, MJ seems to have plenty of haters for some reason, which ought to sell tickets.

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