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    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

    There is zero evidence to suggest Toney could even be competitive with a Top, elite, HW let alone .
    Joshua and Tua aren't top, elite level heavyweights.

    At least Tua's been in there with Lewis and took his beating like a man, but Joshua is average at best he was spoonfed patsies until they matched him wrong. Now they talking retirement after 30 fights.


    Last edited by djtmal; 12-08-2024, 11:46 AM.

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      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

      Joshua and Tua aren't top, elite level heavyweights.
      AJ was unified champion and one of the Top HW's of his era you dumb fuck.

      Originally posted by djtmal View Post
      At least Tua's been in there with Lewis and took his beating like a man, but Joshua is average at best he was spoonfed patsies until they matched him wrong. Now they talking retirement after 30 fights.
      Ok and Toney lost and drew with unranked journeyman multiple times in his prime.

      At HW, Toney is BELOW AVERAGE. You're not quite grasping that it seems.
      Last edited by IronDanHamza; 12-08-2024, 12:31 PM.

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        Originally posted by djtmal View Post

        All those bums have on Toney is size.

        Outside of Foreman Frazier and Lewis, James Toney's intangibles far exceed the rest of that list total skillset
        Still not understanding the weight class thing, are you? Fucking retard.

        Even if that were true, it's irrelevant because the HW version of Toney especially is totally outmatched in almost every category by everyone on the list.

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          I really enjoyed watching Toney he has such a natural fighting sense, is tough, very skillful but the only reason he was even at HW was because he couldn't do anything about bad habits. I would pick all of these fighters to beat Toney, most by stoppage. He really belonged at no higher than 175 if he kept in shape outside of the ring.

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            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            AJ was unified champion and one of the Top HW's .

            Yet you take that bum and put him in any other era he wouldn't crack top ten.

            I am still waiting for you to tell me what prime p4p heavy this bum actually beat

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              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post



              Even if that were true, it's irrelevant because the HW version of Toney especially is totally outmatched in almost every category by everyone on the list.
              I said what I said. Toney based on who he actually beat at heavyweight, can beat the two weakest fighters on that list Joshua and Tua. If he was a natural heavy only Foreman Frazier and Lewis would soundly beat him.

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                Originally posted by djtmal View Post


                Yet you take that bum and put him in any other era he wouldn't crack top ten.

                I am still waiting for you to tell me what prime p4p heavy this bum actually beat
                Ok and you take HW Toney in any other era and he doesn't crack the Top 30. So what's your point?

                Toney was in THE WORST HW ERA there's ever been and couldn't even beat anyone

                Do you want to compare AJ's HW resume to Toney's HW resume?

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                  I'm surprised at people saying Joshua would beat Toney I doubt it outside of a hail mary punch. I think Toney would have f'd him up down the stretch

                  little fat Ruiz knocked him down 5 times or so and he couldnt put a dent in Parker even Takam gave him work. Joshua doesnt have the mentality to beat Toney he would have mentally crushed him in the build up alone
                  Last edited by davef; 12-08-2024, 12:54 PM.

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                    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                    I said what I said. Toney based on who he actually beat at heavyweight, can beat the two weakest fighters on that list Joshua and Tua.
                    You mean no one?

                    Who did Toney beat at HW?



                    Originally posted by djtmal View Post
                    If he was a natural heavy only Foreman Frazier and Lewis would soundly beat him.
                    Ok great and if your parents weren't siblings you wouldn't be a dribbling retard.

                    You are talking about things that don't exist.

                    Toney isn't a natural HW so that it totally irrelevant.

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                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post



                      At HW, Toney is BELOW AVERAGE.
                      Joshua is below that

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