Who has a better resume?

[daggum]

Hrgovic was only ranked where he was because he got a gift against Zhang. He turned his back in that fight and should've been TKO'd, and he should've lost on the cards even ignoring that fact. Arreola was a better fighter than any version of Hrgovic. Arreola even dropped Andy Ruiz and took him the distance a whole seven years after the Stiverne fight.

zhang turned his back and literally ran away in the last round. dont remember hrgovic doing that but maybe he did as well at some point. it wasnt a robbery though, just a razor close fight between 2 good fighters.

hard disagree there but fair enough. arreola never beat anyone close to zhang his entire career. arreola lost about 10 rounds to ruiz so wasnt very close at all. he just never beat anyone very good throughout his career so i dont see why he would be better? he was a guy that hung around for awhile, was on major networks, but doenst have quality wins or even quality performances really. dominated twice by stiverene? yikes. dominated by vitali, ruiz, even wilder. yikes again

[MONGOOSE66]

Wilder with wins over: Ortiz twice and stiverne
Dubois with wins over: joshua, hrgovic, miller

Who cares………,,,,,,,,

[STREET CLEANER]

The T.S. is just a Wilder hater that has him living in his head rent free.

How about just enjoying the fights? All the sudden now Hrgovic is a boogie man.

If DDD keeps winning the way he is the level of competition will surpass Wilder's.

[El_Mero]

The T.S. is just a Wilder hater that has him living in his head rent free.

How about just enjoying the fights? All the sudden now Hrgovic is a boogie man.

If DDD keeps winning the way he is the level of competition will surpass Wilder's.

When was Wilder some great fighter though? Fought a bunch of cans, finally stepped up n went life n death 2x vs the 50yo cuban. mollywhopped3x by Fury. Beat tf up vs Parker and nearly murdered by Zhang.

[The Big Dunn]

I thought DuBois should’ve been given a KO win over Usyk in real time. That would be the best win.

This AJ win is solid, but I think all of us over estimated where he is right now.

His history makes him a top 5 hwt right now. But does anyone believe he could beat guys like Bakole, Zhang or Kayabel, all ranked below him?

[STREET CLEANER]

When was Wilder some great fighter though? Fought a bunch of cans, finally stepped up n went life n death 2x vs the 50yo cuban. mollywhopped3x by Fury. Beat tf up vs Parker and nearly murdered by Zhang.

Wilder's attraction was his right hand. Every fighter he faced right up to the end of his career tasted the canvass. He was such a sloppy fighter but was able to deliver that right hand which was legit.

DDD has a couple of KO losses but he is young and rededicated in his on going career.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Deontay Wilder has the greater resume, as other people have stated on this thread 'The dynamic of the competition between fighters, alters dramatically when you are a Champion. Or perceived as a Champion'.

Deontay Wilder defended his WBC World Heavyweight titles, 10 times. Daniel Dubois only just now in his career, has entered into that realm of competition.

If people are honest? Even before Daniel Dubois fought Anthony Joshua 'Dubois was not being perceived as a Champion. Anthony Joshua was in many more ways, still being treated and perceived as the Champion in the fight. Joshua even as a contender has always been held to the standards of a Champion'.

When Jermaine Franklin fought Anthony Joshua 'Franklin weighed 22 pounds less, than he was vs Dillian Whyte. The reason why Jermaine Franklin weighed 22 pounds less and was in superior condition for the Anthony Joshua fight in comparison to his fights vs Dillian Whyte. Was because Anthony Joshua universal in the boxing community was still being perceived and held to the standards of a Champion. Therefore fighters will train and approach fights against Champions, differently than they would against a contender'.

Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua 'The three Heavyweight Mountains of this Heavyweight era. They have all have vastly more experienced than Dubois, as being Champions and defending their titles'.

Daniel Dubois first real title defense, will be in his next fight 'Although Anthony Joshua has never lost a fight, due to his physiological conditioning. Do you guys honestly believe that Anthony Joshua approached his fight against Daniel Dubois, with the attitude he had vs Wladimir Kiltschko? It would be difficult for Anthony Joshua to duplicate such a approach, when masses of professional boxers both active and retired. Were all backing Anthony Joshua to win, and in very impressive fashion'.

On some level, Joshua would of been slightly effected by this perception 'Like the way Rocky Balboa was vs Clubber Lange in their first fight, during Rocky III. Or Apollo Creed vs Rocky Balboa in Rocky I.

Note: Anthony Joshua could of trained with a great intensity, in terms of the effort he was putting into his conditioning. But that is not the same as, Mike Tyson training up in the Catskill Mountains or Lennox Lewis training in Big Bear Mountains.

And in other sports, Dorian Yates used to lock himself away in his own personal gym 'Which he entitled the Dungeon'.

I am not so sure Anthony Joshua approached Daniel Dubois from the perception that he is a Champion 'Joshua most likely will not come out and state this, because in reality? It is irrelevant. Anthony Joshua's performance skill for skill was the worst of his entire career'.

Daniel Dubois next fight, whether that be against Anthony Joshua or another top level fighter 'Will be a competitive dynamic he has never experienced before'.

To conclude: Anthony Joshua for sure now, knows that Daniel Dubois is not just a talented solid fighter 'Dubois is a World Championship fighter'. Because Joshua vs Dubois, was a fight were people wanted to see whether Anthony Joshua could become a World Champion again. And whether Daniel Dubois could prove his worthiness of being the IBF World Champion'.

Daniel Dubois in front of close to 100'000 spectators live and millions of observers around the World 'Dubois proved that he is a big time performer, I would say for the first time in his career'.

There is a area of boxers game, which I like to refer to as 'Clutch Game'. The Clutch Game is, a situation when a fighter is in a mega fight 'A fight they must win, because there is serious jeopardy. These fights are definitive match ups in the fighters careers'.

Tyson Fury has encountered this situation before 5 times in his career vs Wladimir Kiltschko, Deontay Wilder and Oleksandr Uysk 'Tyson Fury in a big fight time situation, has always performed win or lose. Fury may have been beaten by Oleksandr Uysk I and was given a draw vs Deontay Wilder I. But even during those performances, there is always positives Tyson Fury can take from those fights. Because Tyson Fury's Clutch Game is top level, he almost always win's his biggest fights or comes very close to achieving such a feat'.

Anthony Joshua has performed well in big time fight situations before 'Joshua's Clutch Game, has been better than most Heavyweight fighters of this era. But sometimes, Joshua in that 4th quater for whatever reason has not executed his best game. Andy Ruiz I, and now Daniel Dubois. Those are fights were Anthony Joshua clearly skill for skill has not execute his best game'.

During Anthony Joshua's other loses vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'Joshua actually performed very well, and raised the level of his game for the rematch vs Oleksandr Uysk II. Which in retrospect now, is definitively on a pure performance skill for skill in terms of the action? One of Anthony Joshua's best ever performances'.

As we speak right now, Daniel Dubois resume as a Champion 'Is nowhere near the level of Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder or Anthony Joshua's resumes'.

Those three Heavyweight fighters, have all competed in the clutch many more times than Daniel Dubois 'And they have won'.

Note: I did not vote on the poll etc.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder has always been a bum. I clearly predicted him losing easily to Parker and almost nobody believed me.

[Stuntman Mike]

Good thread by one of the best posters on the site

Dubois Has more balls than wilder and thats all there is to it

[El_Mero]

Wilder's attraction was his right hand. Every fighter he faced right up to the end of his career tasted the canvass. He was such a sloppy fighter but was able to deliver that right hand which was legit.

DDD has a couple of KO losses but he is young and rededicated in his on going career.

Wilders attraction was smoke n mirrors and his fanboys loved it. Real boxing fans called him getting starched if he ever stepped up. The 50yo cuban nearly did just that but the ref saved Wilder.