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    #21
    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    People still overating wilder and his mythical power. Dubois has shown to be a much bigger puncher than wilder with 2 kos over top 5 guys. Wilder kod 1 top 10 guy his entire career. If you look at ko percentage Dubois has a 50% ratio to Wilders 25% against top 10 opponents. Dubois also kod Miller who probably would be in tge top 10 if he didn't get robbed against ruiz. I dont see any hidden gems on Wilders resume just guys like spilzka, Washington, duhapas etc
    All Wilder was in his prime was twitchy reflexes, killer instinct and unbelievable one punch power

    And that is undeniable

    DDD has excellent power but not the one punch power that has fighters twitching on the canvas

    Miller said that DDD has good power but he has been hit way harder

    Miller and Herzavic or however you spell his name we’re still on their feet when the fight was stopped

    Miller gassed and DDD still couldn’t take him off his feet

    Hrgovic was stopped on a cut

    So those are referee stoppages not clean KOs

    Fury said that no one punches like wilder, which is obvious to anyone who has been watching boxing for some time
    Last edited by 2fast2strong; 09-23-2024, 12:18 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      We saw it with Vlad until he was taught to clinch (cheat),.
      oh yeah who could forget vlad with that mighty clinch, he would jab straight shot and literally wrap himself around his opponent, very annoying stuff if u didnt like him but effective

      billeau2 billeau2 likes this.

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        #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        It's funny how boxers can't defend punches well. In training camps what are they practising?
        Right, and equally funny how they take the 300 million dollars off the table that 99.99% of ALL big strong, athletic men are terrified to go for.

        Here's my guess, Hugh. Boxing at world level just isn't as easy as it looks to the untrained eye.

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          #24
          Originally posted by 2fast2strong View Post

          All Wilder was in his prime was twitchy reflexes, killer instinct and unbelievable one punch power

          And that is undeniable

          DDD has excellent power but not the one punch power that has fighters twitching on the canvas

          Miller said that DDD has good power but he has been hit way harder

          Miller and Herzavic or however you spell his name we’re still on their feet when the fight was stopped

          Miller gassed and DDD still couldn’t take him off his feet

          Hrgovic was stopped on a cut

          So those are referee stoppages not clean KOs

          Fury said that no one punches like wilder, which is obvious to anyone who has been watching boxing for some time
          Great post, and very true. Wilder had Tyson, Foreman, Shavers, Williams, Liston level power.
          This is universally acknowledged by the people who actually know the game.
          daggum isn't in that league.
          Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 09-23-2024, 01:17 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by 2fast2strong View Post
            It landed because Anthony was fighting scared, his head was up in the air and his hands were down because he didn’t want to commit to a punch

            He was always trying to pull away after he punched and not get hit
            he didn’t commit to a punch until the final round when he got dropped for the last time

            The funny thing is it’s the exact same kind of punch Wilder throws but at 1/8 the speed

            If wilder would of landed that punch on Anthony he would still be asleep right now
            A very astute post! It's precisely what I've been saying for a decade, and a truth not lost on Matchroom Boxing.

            Joshua is a tremendous heavyweight operating in a stacked era; but he would never end the fight standing against Deontay Wilder. Not in a million years.

            Horrible style clash for Joshua.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

              A very astute post! It's precisely what I've been saying for a decade, and a truth not lost on Matchroom Boxing.

              Joshua is a tremendous heavyweight operating in a stacked era; but he would never end the fight standing against Deontay Wilder. Not in a million years.

              Horrible style clash for Joshua.
              Depends what you mean by standing... If the Earth tilted as Wilder connected, and the horizontal and vertical changed... technically...

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                #27
                Originally posted by daggum View Post

                People still overating wilder and his mythical power. Dubois has shown to be a much bigger puncher than wilder with 2 kos over top 5 guys. Wilder kod 1 top 10 guy his entire career. If you look at ko percentage Dubois has a 50% ratio to Wilders 25% against top 10 opponents. Dubois also kod Miller who probably would be in tge top 10 if he didn't get robbed against ruiz. I dont see any hidden gems on Wilders resume just guys like spilzka, Washington, duhapas etc
                Dubois did not stop his opponents like Wilder... Top 5 lol, out of what? You a ful! There is no real top 5 or top 10, there are 2 or three top guys and a bunch of workmanlike fighters, and then the contenders. You are overrating Dubois so you can credit Joshua... Like everyone here knew you would! A moment ago DD was a defensively suspect hitter who was clawing up the ladder. DD does not even have one punch power, he uses accumulation, like he did against Joshua.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                  A very astute post! It's precisely what I've been saying for a decade, and a truth not lost on Matchroom Boxing.

                  Joshua is a tremendous heavyweight operating in a stacked era; but he would never end the fight standing against Deontay Wilder. Not in a million years.

                  Horrible style clash for Joshua.
                  You have to understand the mentality... If Dubois is this incredible puncher, who fought the cream of the crop, then Joshua lost to the best... Never mind that this scenario is laughable. Dubois is doing well, as Parker is and as Bakole is... They are fighting guys in the division who round it out. Dubois was stopped by Usyk, as was Joshua, that is parity of a sort... Joshua was simply overrated. Usyk was diplomatic but stated clearly that Joshua was not a hard fight for him. If one assumes the Dubois punch on Usyk was legal, then one has to assume Usyk would have gotten up if it was not called low.

                  The way I see it is you have 3 guys successfully challenging for a crack at the apple: They are the three mentioned above. It would be a second chance for Dubois...

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                    Depends what you mean by standing... If the Earth tilted as Wilder connected, and the horizontal and vertical changed... technically...
                    Who can argue that? Lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post
                      Was a huge overhand looping right thrown from a million miles away. How did AJ not block/get out of the way?? Head up in the air with his hands down. Unbelievable
                      When I saw it, my first reaction was this is a punch zelenoff would throw

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