Im sick of all this Morales, MAB, and Pac #4# stuff

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Thats bull****.

Diego Corrales was K.O.'d a few fights back against PBF.
did not seem to hurt his credibility any.

And what is bull****? That M.A.B. dominated the man who just derailed Pacman?

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Diego Corrales was K.O.'d a few fights back against PBF.
did not seem to hurt his credibility any.

And what is bull****? That M.A.B. dominated the man who just derailed Pacman?

Weezer:

Say it aint soooooooiiiooowwww......ur love is a heart breaker...

Chico and Floyd was over 5 years ago. It's bull**** that you would put MAB high when he just got dominated and KO 2 fights ago. If he got beat that would be one thing but he was destroyed

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Your missing the main difference though and the difference is that I dont penalize guys for close fights but Erik has recently "lost twice". That is the main point. You can say they were agaisnt a good fighter but that only matters so much. Like I said, if Floyd lost to Zoo twice would you still have him in the top of the rankings and another big thing is the second lost came just after MAB got dominated and KO. You cant have Morales up that high

When Morales lost the second fight, a large amount of people, including myself, had him winning the fight. I didn't de-value his stock so much after that since I thought he was wronged. In between that time, he beat Ayala, KOed Espadas, moved up and beat Chavez, and beat the IBF champ Hernandez convincingly. I had him back in the three spot...and then he closely lost to Barerra again. I bumped him way down to the 9 spot after that, because I took into consideration that it was against a GREAT fighter, and I also took into consideration that he lost to someone who was just dominated by Pacquiao.

The argument you're presenting right now is pretty good and I agree that losing twice within 2&1/2 years should take down a fighters p4p stock. What makes me think that Erik deserves a top five spot however is the fact that he is consistently taking on the big names in his division and is one of the most active champs/fighters/warriors in the biz. Bear with me on this next example: If Mayweather were to beat Gatti, then lose a close fight to Tszyu in which many people thought he was robbed, and the moved up and beat a few other good fighters at 147 (meanwhile Cotto slaughters Tszyu at 140), and then had a rematch with Tszyu at 147 and lost another close majority decision...and then Floyd comes back and beats Cotto convincingly at 147...I wouldn't move him very far out of his current p4p ranking. Whew that was tedious....